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Hi dragonfly, I'd like to add a note on this. There is the matter of imputed sin, and there is the matter of actual sin. Before the Law was given, sin was not imputed. The only law that had been given was don't eat from that tree. And after the garden was closed to man, no one could, so no...

Hi dragonfly, I'm talking about people who have been born again - regenerated - which is something that only happened after Jesus' resurrection. So to use the Israelites in the wilderness as an example of people who have been reborn and fell away is not correct. They were a people who with...

This is just the point, Prentis, we have to look at it all. And when there are clear Scriptures that specifically address our spiritual state, and our relationship with God, we have to use those to understand those that are less clear, or that do not make the same sort of specific statements...

Hi Epi, I'm simply asking for information to define the debate. You say that it "usually carries an unbelief with it". Why add the baggage? Why not just go with face value of what I'm saying? Seriously, this question - are you completely sinless - isn't a question I have occassion to ask...

It's only right and healthy to acknowledge to someone, and apologize, when we wrong them. And when it's God, and He's the one who will work with us to deal with our sins, then we have to start from reality. And you can't do that if you will not acknowledge the truth about yourself and your...

Hi Axe, That's not exactly correct. There is one saying he has reached sinlessness, this "total sanctification". That is a great reply, imo. Perhaps they will elucidate this, if that is what they mean. But the statements have seemed to me to be very clear. Absolutely!!! Yes! I think...

Hi Epi, You have not addressed what I've written. I've noticed this as continuing trend in general in this thread. I've asked specific questions numerous times, to find them repeatedly ignored. And this is the latest example. Is it too hard, too painful, too . . . what? You wrote: And I...

Unless your righteousness exceeds that of the Pharisees . . .

Whitestone, Just remember, if we do sin, we have an Advocate, even Jesus Christ the Righteous. You wrote: This is the unbeliever, the lost in sin, spiritually dead, is that not what you have stated? Those who have not been filled with Christ. This is what you teach, is it not? (Hint: its...

But what is that joy? Isn't it a deep happiness? You are describing the source, not the emotion. I may be unhappy over some circumstance, but I remain deeply happy - rejoicing - in God's love and forgiveness.

Who is the son of God who spends the rest of his life serving sin? Peter says that it is God's power that safeguards us for salvation. Is that true?

Really? What is Joy, if not extreme happiness? Do you mean some sort of theological "joy", that is not being extremely happy? Please, show me. Love in Christ, Mark What does that mean, joy is an attitude? Aren't happiness and joy both feelings words? How would you describe an "attitude...

God is the one who re-creates you with a new nature. We are not able to change our nature. And absolutely nothing in Scripture teaches that God will then undo what He did to make us His children, born of Him. Nothing teaches that we have any power over our nature. And nothing teaches that...

Are you saying this of me? Do you impugn my motives? Is this the latest ad hominem? I'm not asking for the right reason, or in the right way? My interest is in dealing with reality. What is true. Let's get it out on the table, talk about it. Do you not think so? Perhaps I've been...

Yes I do.

Hi JohnnyB, There seems to be a true failure in communication here. Or is it that the single point of disagreement is projected over all else? You say I fight against God. Its nice that you know me so much better than I know myself. But have we ever even met? In your words I "set myself...

Wow! Look at that food! I'll be right over!

2 Corinthians 4:8-18 ESV (8) We are afflicted in every way, but not crushed; perplexed, but not driven to despair; (9) persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed; (10) always carrying in the body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be manifested in our...

I'd love to go! But I so far, no way to afford it.

You see in this passage, Paul is acknowedging that something is changed, that you used to walk in these, and don't any longer, but he likewise acknowledges that there is still something we're dealing with, therefore the exortation to put these things away. Paul speaks of how we used to live in...