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    Forgiveness

    Hi dragonfly, Before getting into other passages, I'd like to settle whether or not we agree on the meaning of this passage. Building doctrines can only happen, in my opinion, once we've correctly understood the words we're reading. If we can settle on our agreement of what this passage says...
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    Sinless Perfection?

    Hi dragonfly, Excellent! I want to know how you think of this. I believe this is a critical issue with you view as I understand your view. Perhaps I am mistaken about what you think. The answer to this question should clarify certain aspects for me. Let's define sin. Now, as we're...
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    Why you as a Christian are as sinless as God is Holy....

    That's an interesting thought. I can think of a few other places too that speak of God's patience and tolerance, when God waited. Something for me to think about! Love in Christ, Mark
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    Forgiveness

    Hi Arnie, This is what I mean. Someone could say that Jesus doesn't have to die again because His death is enough to provide forgiveness for all sins, for everyone. So that when we sin, we can come back for forgiveness, and there will always be enough. But what Hebrews says is that Jesus...
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    Sinless Perfection?

    This is failing to come from the Old Covenant into the New Covanent. The ancient Isaelites failed to enter the promised land. Now the writer urges them to enter the new covenant. We have to remember what this letter is. This is not describing a born again child of God forsaking God to become...
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    Forgiveness

    Hebrews 10:11-18 ESV (11) And every priest stands daily at his service, offering repeatedly the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins. (12) But when Christ had offered for all time a single sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God, (13) waiting from that time until his...
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    Is it Love or Serve or Obeying ?

    No worries! I completely understand! And there is a very real concern: 2 Timothy 2:14 "Remind them of these things, and charge them before God not to quarrel about words, which does no good, but only ruins the hearers." Love in Christ, Mark
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    The false Messiah

    Who do you say?
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    Is it Love or Serve or Obeying ?

    I'm just saying its enough to read the Bible as it is without needing to redefine the words. Love obeys, but love and obedience are different things. Love is a lot more than just thinking nice thoughts, and its also more than obedience too. Anyway, nothing I really want to debate. And I...
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    Not In the end times? We've been through worse

    Hi Warrior, When the prophecies are being fulfilled we will see it and know. There are a lot of markers to indicate that this is getting near the time Jesus prophesied in Matthew 24, that Revelation describes, and many many other places. Remember, prophecies that have been fulfilled according...
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    Body of Christ vs. Bride of Christ

    HI Trekson, I've reached the same conclusions myself, that Israel is the bride, the church is body of Christ, and in the end, we are unified. Though I would say that the guests of the wedding aren't clothed in humility so much as being clothed in righteousness. And there are some implication...
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    Is it Love or Serve or Obeying ?

    But even so, love is it's own word with its own meaning. Serve has its own meaning, and obey has it's own meaning. I think I see the point of the thread, to say that if we love God we obey Him, if we love our brother we will serve him. But we can't just go around trying to re-write the Greek...
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    Why you as a Christian are as sinless as God is Holy....

    Rev_3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels. 1Jn 5:4 For everyone who has been born of God overcomes the world. And this is the victory...
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    Sinless Perfection?

    Hi dragonfly, I, like Paul, am heavily looking towards our physical resurrection. And the older I get, the more appealing, and real, it becomes. Whoa! Who has said this? But the reality is that we have different ideas about what soteriological repentance is, or so it seems. Metanoia...
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    Sinless Perfection?

    Hi Aspen, I was thinking as I wrote my previous post that someone would bring up the matter of Textual Criticism. And as there are many differences within the different manuscripts, even within manuscript families, and considering the great number of differences between the manuscript families...
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    Separate Posts

    Yeah, me too. You can read them if you want, or just jump past.
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    So I'm Switching Antivirus Programs...

    Yep, avast and malwarebytes, both free. And SpyBot. I never notice any of them except of course when I want to run a scan or something. And I occasionally run the Trend Micro free scan, housecall. All my software is freeware, and I'm happy as can be with all of it.
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    Romans 7:1-25, saved man or unregenerate man?

    HI Dell, In a nutshell . . . I see Romans 7:1-4 describing the regenerate man's relationship to the Law, that being severed. Romans 7:5, the law and the unregenerate. Romans 7:6, again, the regenerate "released" from the Law. Romans 7:7-13, the Law's effect on the unregenerate. When we...
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    Sinless Perfection?

    Hi dragonfly, Not sure where you would get this impression from, we haven't really discussed this, but nothing could be further from the truth. But while God has given us a new nature involving all the intellected and creativity and desire for righteousness that He wants for us, it is not...
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    Sinless Perfection?

    They knew the way. But did they follow the way? Does just having knowledge save you? Of course not. I think that the message of Scripture is that God holds us special to Him. Malachi 3:16-17 ESV (16) Then those who feared the LORD spoke with one another. The LORD paid attention and heard...