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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I don't think that way at all. Rather it signifies not taking the whole of scripture into consideration while using selected texts. I stand corrected. Thank you. I had not studied the passage myself which I usually do. look at the genre of a passage, whether it be narrative, as of Jesus going...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    @marks I know, so many different views so who is right? You are wanting to have the Way pointed out for you so you can find scriptures, but walking in the Spirit means you need to start listening first. It is very simple and l think you meant something like it earlier.I Ask the Lord what He...
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    Glory be! How the sinful human mind will twist and distort the clear simple meaning of the text when it disagrees with their theology!
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    It has been a remnant who have gone on to perfection, apart from the 12 , hence the need for the teaching and admonitions.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    1 John: 9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. This verse shows us what John is talking about ie those who say (gnostics) that their sin is not counted as sin because the flesh is not the spirit and God does not see...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    1John8:If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us This verse is repeated ad nauseum by those who ignore the rest of the verses in the same letter: He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked. He that loveth his brother...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I see the likeness of the journey of the children of Israel in the journey of the NT disciples before they became apostles. Yes you are right! Destroy the captors is much more suiting. I think that we can compare our own experience to the facts of scripture. If we are born again are we...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    marks, are the texts that record Jesus calling the disciples, and then their following after Him not enough? Scripture itself says that is it 'here a little, there a little, line upon line, precept upon precept', so it is in taking all things into consideration instead of the common western...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I would say it is more for the love of the Father who wants to have His children fully united with Him. After all He could cause a revival at any time ie His power come down to earth.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    As he is writing to believers in Rome, and not to a specific church I would say that he is writing to those not yet having arrived and I feel that he is an apostle to this teaching going from church to church. After Pentecost, the Jews returning home brought the good news with them to all over...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I would rather think that it was a 'mountain top' experience, in which one is full of emotion and consider that state to be of sinlessness, than actual ES. though Walking in the Spirit is most of all a spiritual experience though our emotions will be touched.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I am not experienced enough yet to know that for sure. I tend towards thinking that it is only in crucified flesh that we are walking in the Spirit but I am open to correction. My flesh seems to be alive and well atm. Agreed that it has happened but we need to apprehend it. I think it is a...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Lizbeth, I agree that there are times in our initial walk when we feel that we are taken over by the Spirit to do His work. But as I have said in my response to Mark that it is supposed to be all of the time otherwise we are not walking in the Spirit but still the flesh ie it is not crucified...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Thank you Mark, you always ask such good questions on the forum. In order to take those scriptures you are referring to within their context, and which I entirely agree with you are speaking of being baptized into Him, born again, but would add that they are describing a person walking in the...
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    @uncle silas Thank you that is my understanding, which I do not wish to debate with you as my thoughts and scriptures are throughout the thread.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    @uncle silas please stop derailing the thread thank you.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Satan will not go along with that. If we are used to the extent that God desires, then we must be killed ie crucified with Christ which is not something that we can speak lightly of 'I no longer live' said Paul. So many have an uncrucified life as believers. No cross no crown as an early Quaker...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Thank you for taking the time to watch. As we heard, Paul uses energeia a lot in his letters, but in our bibles, it does not translate. Does the Holy Spirit show us the things that get missed in translation? Yes if we are walking in the Spirit but not in the same areas for all. God does not give...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    If you have the time to watch the last video (I listen on 1.5 speed) you will hear that our English versions miss certain important things in the translations.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I see it as having the spirit, in union with Christ, in purity, divorced from our emotions and thoughts that are not just sinful but the natural workings like intuition that is from God.