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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I have had this happen often. Once I interpreted the obstacles as the devil wanting to stop me doing something which I thought was God's will, and it made me more determined, but I was fooled and saw it was in fact the enemy wanting me to be in a harmful situation. But we can be assured that...
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    Okay I will pray for you.
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    Yes of course not. See in the eyes of the spirit.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Why are you leaving @MatthewG ?
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    @MatthewG Blessed are the pure in heart: for they shall see God. Matt 5:8 So if we are not operating from a pure heart, this scripture says, we will be blind in our sins. Here are some more verses: 2 Corinthians 7:1 ESV Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Thank you MatthewG. I agree, we will never be perfect in the flesh, but we are commanded to be in the Spirit instead. What does a 'pure heart' mean to you? Please everyone keep on topic thanks. Johann has been removed for high-jacking the thread.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    @Johann wrote: Now since you have committed an act of sin, by calling me "dishonest" you need to repent, come back on track, and study to show yourself a woman approved by rightly cutting straight the D'var of YHVH. I think rather it should be you repenting, as I did not accuse you, I only...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    @Johann wrote: The Old Man is Crucified, but Still Present: Paradoxical? Romans 6:6 says that the old man has been crucified with Christ, but this doesn’t mean it has been eradicated or surgically removed from our being. The verb "crucified" (συνεσταυρώθη synestaurōthē) indicates that the power...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    It is not easy to explain or understand. It is completely gone yes in order for a man to be in Christ in reality not just in position. But it can come back.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Sorry but a bit busy. I think that Utley misses the reason why Paul wrote Romans 6, 7 & 8. It was written to answer the perennial problem of how does a believer stop sinning. Some will not bother asking that question. They have quenched the Holy Spirit. The rest will go into the dark night...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Baptism of the Spirit is the gateway into Christ and Christ cannot abide where there is sin so yes.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    He gets a bit of the truth but finds it hard to include it in his theology. Good preacher though.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    I am an ex-Calvinist remember. They were not wrong about everything. I have listened to every sermon that MLJ preached.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    What has been described, is a Christianity without the cross. Crucified with Christ means a definite consent to losing our lives. If we have reached the crisis (dark night) and we consented, there is no more sin. If the old man is destroyed (contested endlessly by theologians using the Greek...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    @marks wrote: If by "something we do" you include the recognition of facts. As we can see from the previous quotation, it is not just 'the recognition of facts'. And this is the exact point where popular evangelical theology is in error. Statistics prove that most people identified as...
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Knowing this - Experiencing this. As Hodge puts it "Our inward experience agrees with this doctrinal statement. (Romans Commentary) Knowing (1097) (ginosko) means to acquire information by whatever means, but often with the implication of personal involvement or experience. As Rich Cathers...
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    Well, obviously missed a verse.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    As far as Christ is concerned yes. For us - we live in time.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Romans 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. Sounds like we do something. Taking away from scripture is just as bad.
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    The Way/Theosis/entire sanctification.

    Yes, the seed placed within her and the growth until the birth. That comes at the end of the process, and not the beginning however. Christ formed within us is the beginning.