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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    ....sin's power was removed in a prepared body. so that through death he could destroy the one (sin personified) who holds the power of death (that is, the devil), Heb 2:14. How was sin's power removed from Christ "through" death? If you are struggling to understand what has the power of...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Not really Johann, I've come to see through your approach to interpreting Scripture. Someone taught you to do this as a way of inflating your ego. You are not a Greek scholar, but perhaps you dream of being one when you head hits the pillow at night? You actually believe Verbs and Syntax is...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Not a single one of those quotes shows Christ literally performing the creative works, and we both know you can't provide any. Do you know what's really disturbing about your reply? You actually believe all those quotes can be daisy chained together to prove your false understanding of Christ...
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    Who or What is Babylon the Great? How do God’s people come to be in her?

    What Catholicism does in secret, Christianity (her daughters) does openly! 47:7 You said, ‘I will rule forever as permanent queen!’ You did not think about these things; you did not consider how it would turn out. 47:8 So now, listen to this, O one who lives so lavishly, who lives securely...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Not so J..it is you who is twisting the truth. Scott said "Christ is the Creator God." F2F
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    The Mind and the Moon

    Well, we have no light of our own – we are light bearers, symbolizing God's reflected brilliance in the darkness. A lesser light. F2F
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    There is a strong delusion in this forum where believers have convinced themselves that Jesus, the Son of Man, is merely Father God in disguise. There have always been, and will continue to be, "false prophets" (2 Peter 1:19-20, 2:1; Matthew 24:4-5, 11, 24). This has always been prevalent in...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Better to appreciate the quality of his true sonship – God’s power and his victory! You have shown none of the above in your replies F2F
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Life and death, but you all good with Messi
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    @Wrangler @ProDeo has, so to speak, come out by admitting he believes Christ could not sin. What will happen when he realizes that the Lord’s entire life was one continuous temptation from which sin was always possible? If anyone believes that, are the Lord’s words here insincere? “You are the...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Not just a man, Pro – The Son of Man. Do you know what's ironic about that, Pro? Let's take a step back. The Son of Man became the Son of God, but you believe in the false doctrine of God the Son. So, you've shown that you don't understand the Son of Man, which implies you don't truly know...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    See @Wrangler This person hasn't a clue about the true Christ! Christianity is so ready for the Lords return and how will he find his house? In effect what this person believes in the Lords sufferings in the flesh was a mere puppet show with a god holding the strings. F2F
  13. face2face

    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Yes, my interactions with David today have led him to open the door to the truth, but he keeps slamming it shut with his delusional, pre-programmed responses. And now I have Prodeo who is 100 steps behind David. And this "And no verse says it’s important to believe in the trinity"; I mean...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    You're referring to the victory after the resurrection, right? What I'm asking is for you to understand the Son of Man! No doubt you realize what you're doing, but I'm determined to hold you accountable on this one. You've acknowledged that Christ and you share in a common weakness, and that...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Okay... What was weak about Christ's flesh, if he shared it with us as you say? 2:14 Therefore, since @David in NJ shares in flesh and blood, he (Jesus) likewise shared in their humanity, so that through death he could destroy the one (Sins power Personified) who holds the power of death (that...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    It's possilbe Pro you have never looked closely at the true nature of Christ which is why your emotional repsonse are such. For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin. Let us...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    @David in NJ, just out of curiosity, would I be right in saying there are many questions you either won't answer or can't? Along the way, you've seemed to rely on smugness—could this be a way of easing the pressure? F2F
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    You never answered what shared weakness you and Christ share? F2F
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Let's approach this differently, David. 1 Corinthians 15:56-57 says, "The sting of death is sin, and the power of sin is the law. But thanks be to God, who gives us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ!" You mentioned that the sting came from the serpent (lifted up on a pole :Thumbsup:)...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    @David i Because you lack understanding, that's why