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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    This isn't true, is it, J? All of your commentaries are based on the early writings of those church fathers, and you frequently post their works ad nauseam in this forum. However, you are right to state "The concept of theosis is not biblical" Lets not confuse this with the eternal reward to...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Only let us hold true to what we have attained. Php 3:16. A crown of righteousness awaited the Apostle, reserved in Heaven, ready to be reveal as Peter stated at the Masters coming. F2F
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    It's almost comical how deeply focused you all are on the Trinity, yet you can't even address the most fundamental principles of the Gospel. Your house won't stand on a Trinatarian foundation - its quicksand! F2F
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Let's try again @Johann as I doubt @ProDeo will tackle it! How many times did Jesus die to sin? F2F
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Johann Do you know how many times I've ask you a question and you have refused to answer? The number is double digits. Do you know why you can't answer? F2F
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    @Johann tut tut! Maybe it's time to put away your commentaries and start to open the Word for yourself? F2F
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Answer the question. How many times did Jesus die to sin? F2F
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    What's absurd is you don't understand the Victory God achieved in His Son. You are not unlike the Master in Israel (Nicodemus) who missed the point of the “Serpent in the wilderness” ...the law could do nothing for the sting of death! 1 Cor 15:55-57 What had to be lifted up Pro? And why...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Can't deal with the text?
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @Pierac @David in NJ As a side I would like to leave these words here which I believe captures the essense of this subject: “The Lord possessed me at the beginning of his work, the first of his acts of old. 23 Ages ago I was set up, at the first, before the beginning of the earth. 24 When...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Thanks for the funny lfh Very true! I use to use this approach, however I still believe a correct understanding of Jesus & Logos can be attained with the personal pronoun. :gd Correct: Paul phrased it awkwardly here: for all things in heaven and on earth were created by him—all things...
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    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    Correct, the correlation between Jesus and the children God has given him cannot be downplayed. We participate in his death, resurrection, and life. Every aspect of his life and sacrifice serves as a living example of how we, too, can put the flesh to death and live by the Spirit. John 17 speaks...
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    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    Now I have more time to address your (and Marks') inferences. Acts 2:24 speaks of Yahweh raising His Son. Romans 8:11 explains the method, stating that it was the Spirit of God (Yahweh) who raised Christ from the dead, granting Him everlasting life. This aligns with Romans 1:4, which...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    @David in NJ & @amigo de christo How do we know this to be true - lets test this offensive knowledge? And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Gal 5:24 Did Christ do this? If not, why not? If so, why so? If not, how can you both belong to...
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    This is the type of response one would expect from those who know not the true Gospel. It must be this way amigo - those who cannot express Jesus Christ as coming in Sin's Flesh cannot have the Spirit of God in them. 1 John 4:3 F2F
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    @amigo de christo It's a difficult truth to accept, I get it but in time you will come to understand. John 2:25 states, He did not need anyone to testify about man, for he knew what was in man" Had not John not already seen Jesus as the Brazen Serpent? John 3:14? What are you both missing? F2F
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    Theosis vs Christlikeness

    Yes, the perfection was not in nature but in Character...an important distiction otherwise God would not have made such an open show of a crucified body. Once all know and understand that even in Christ "dwells no good thing!" - evil was always but a moment away and he was in agony everyday...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    And this is why a time is coming when all Christians will come to understand the pagan origins of their three headed god. You know it will be similiar to the time when Christ reveals his hands to his brothers and sisters and they will weap like they have lost their only son! F2F
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    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    Correct, God's Spirit raised Jesus from the dead and not Christ himself.
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    Did ANYONE In Scripture (Including Jesus), Claim Jesus IS God?

    They all need to think about this! They won't but they should!