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    The pope triples down on his univeralism

    These are some solid arguments. Protestants instinctively reject good works as having ANYTHING to do with salvation. It's unbiblical, but then again, so is the Reformation, for never are we told to deal with disagreements by starting our own church. But I digress. We Catholics understand that...
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    The Doctrine of OSAS

    I love this post, I'll preface, before getting into where I disagree. Ripping into Calvinism is easy because their rigid and eclectic belief system provides a target rich environment. But attempting to hold onto OSAS while attempting to remain free from the clutches of Calvinism will prove...
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    Oh well, at least Clint Eastwood understood apostle Paul

    Perhaps you can clear up and summarize what your view of the gospel is. The "gospel of works" accusation is prolific, but rarely true. I've yet to meet anyone preaching works based salvation and a complete denial of grace. Perhaps you can provide more extrapolation for us.
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    Whatever happened to large families?

    I would also add that if I were Satan *snicker* I would want Christians to be using contraceptives. Heathens have always found ways to limit their offspring, going all the way back to the ancient Canaanites who sacrificed their children in the fires of Molech. But Christians (and Jews by the...
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    Is America Becoming A Force For Evil In The World?

    I don't expect it to, but nations can either be a force for good or a force for evil in the world by how it uses its power, whether it's protecting the innocent or being a bully. We used to do the former, now we're doing more of the latter. We fly drones into nations with which we're not at...
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    Making the case for organized religion

    But the charity work is just as important, we all know the famous "faith without works is dead" verse found in James 2, but see how he contexts this verse: 13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment. 14 What doth it profit, my...
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    The Doctrine of OSAS

    Yes...but... As I pointed out to Rach, Calvinism is the logical conclusion of OSAS. OSAS that doesn't lead to Calvinism is just half baked; not thought out to its logical conclusion. You can't remove freewill after salvation unless you remove it before salvation as well, as the Calvinists...
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    Making the case for organized religion

    Everyone's heard it said that they have no problem with Christianity, but it's "organized religion" that they reject. Quite often it's really in roster with a series of excuses for not showing up for church on Sunday; be that as it may. But my question is, are Christians really any good in the...
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    Have the leadership of the church become pawns of the Devil?

    Yes, um.....that's exactly the verse I was thinking of. <_<
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    The pope triples down on his univeralism

    It's misconstrued, but understandably so. I know Protestants. I know their mindset. So I know how they come to view it that way. What we believe is that salvation comes only through Christ, but full revelation of God in Jesus Christ may not come in this life time. If any lesson can be drawn...
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    Is America Becoming A Force For Evil In The World?

    You also still think the sun never sets on your empire! :rolleyes:
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    The Doctrine of OSAS

    Much to his credit, this is where John Calvin got his teachings from.
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    Have the leadership of the church become pawns of the Devil?

    But don't you know that unbelievers will take one look at this and say, "Yep, Christianity is sane, level headed religion. Where do I sign up?"
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    The Doctrine of OSAS

    Yes he was.
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    The Doctrine of OSAS

    Thanks. I haven't gone anywhere, just driving a truck and spending time with my family. Trying to be home more often since we're due to have another baby in January.
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    which is more christiant to do drinking beer or drinking blackberry brandy

    When Billy Graham passes away, I'm nominating him for the first Protestant to be beatified by the Catholic Church.
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    The Doctrine of OSAS

    The Calvinist notion of it is. If we start from the understanding that God calls us to repentance and apart from that calling we're unable to come to him, we're on solid ground. But then the Calvinists suggest that God only calls certain people and by default consigns everyone else to...
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    The pope triples down on his univeralism

    Good work! Just ignore everyone who disagrees with you and you'll have your own little echo chamber. Did you want to discuss this with Catholics who might understand what the Pope was saying or did you just want to solicit agreement from protestants just as ignorant as you are?