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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    The point here is clear, Eternally – if Jesus is truly God, then the temptations He faced could not have any real potential for sin. It would be impossible! At best, it would be a mere display. F2F
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    This needs to be unpacked further. Points 1-3 make sense, its the last paragraph I need help with. F2F
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    It's merely a resource and not the only one I have.
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Yeah its pre-eminence not pre-existence - well done!
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    The Case For The Triune GodHead!

    @GRACE ambassador 8:31 What then shall we say about these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 8:32 Indeed, he who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, freely give us all things? Ro 8:31–32. Let's consider what God will give...
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    The Case For The Triune GodHead!

    If the OT presents God as a single person (which you must acknowledge is how the Jews interpreted the OT), and if Jesus revealed himself as a distinct person of God in the NT (as you would claim), then there is no logical basis for asserting that “Jesus’ revelation did not contradict the...
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    In reality they can't if you drill down on there beliefs. F2F
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    The Bible is clear that the attributes of God prevent Him from engaging in certain behaviors or being subject to specific conditions. For example: God cannot die, because He is eternal (Psalm 90:2, "Even before the mountains came into existence, or You brought the world into being, You were the...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    God’s nature is characterized by several divine attributes, most of which are unique to Him. The first of these is omnipotence, meaning "all-powerful." This attribute is clearly stated in Revelation 19:6 ("...For the Lord our God, the All-Powerful, reigns!"). While Jesus expresses himself...
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    Jacobs's Ladder or God's Ladder? (Gen 28:10-32:2)

    Ben, do you engage with comments? F2F
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    Thanks Wick for the small text! You have added to a short list of T believers who at least acknowledge the concept is not evident in the Bible. Your quote: Colossians 2: Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the...
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    How did the Trinity doctrine develop in the early church?

    That's right you don't fit the Trinitarian mold I do recall you saying that a very long time ago, yet you believe Jesus is God from memory. The manner that came down from Heaven is merely a shadow of the Word (Logos) that descended from Heaven and through the Holy Spirit, gave life to Jesus...
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    NET sn The pronoun This one (οὗτος, houtos) refers to a person, but it is far from clear whether it should be understood as a reference (1) to God the Father or (2) to Jesus Christ. It's weary business dealing with these misquotes Brakelite - Scott did it yesterday using John 6:46 and now you...
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Nice to agree on something... The issue for you is not having a narrative that explains Christ being alive while dead or a pre-existent Christ — the problem is that such a story is absent, which we would expect if these concepts were false. I mean, you can say what ever you want concerning...
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Its having the information and testing it which reinforces how right!
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    My Logos Library is rather extensive RLT...its taken over 12 year to grow it 9,480 works, including those of my own. Many of them contain commentary on Trinitarian Dogma, which is why I am able to reason out the matter.
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    @RedFan Attributes of God: Identity God is a personal being who exists as a single divine Person (Yahweh; the Father). This attribute is arguably the most crucial, as it directly impacts our discussion. The identity of God is clearly defined in Scripture on numerous occasions, and the unity...
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    You are yet to ask intelligent questions...if you need help with this let me know
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    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    The defense of it is evident. However, as you know, your contribution has been minimal at best, and when challenged, you seldom, if ever, offer a rebuttal. Although this seems to be your approach in all discussions F2F
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    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Modern scholars are now facing the dilemma of defining the distinction between the pre‐existent logos and the pre‐existent Jesus without ever committing to a fully defined ontological unity between Father and Son. My position is that Logos is from Everlasting to Everlasting and has no beginning...