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  1. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 Was Jesus speaking literally

    The words of Jesus. Why does anyone focus on a few words. and not all of them, lets focus on all the words. and also why do we not focus on the results of those who obey? so in the following I will show ALL the words Jesus said what he commanded, and what those who obey will recieve In...
  2. Eternally Grateful

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Your selective listening You hear the words (eat and drink) but you are not hearing the words "And you will never die, live forever. have eternal life, be raised on the last day, never hunger or thirst" whe4n you are ready to listen to these words. Get back with me,, maybe we can have some...
  3. Eternally Grateful

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    If I do them to GET something in return. it is a work - I am doing them to earn something (like salvation or forgiveness of sins) If I do them out of obedience not expecting anything in return. It is a work of righteousness.. or a work of obedience. both people do the same works, one does it...
  4. Eternally Grateful

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    ok maybe I misunderstood you sorry..
  5. Eternally Grateful

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Its not Jesus spoke it the day before. and he is speaking it to them now. yet they did not receive it in faith or believe it.. They made it difficult. because they did not believe its no different than discussion in chatrooms. If you do not believe something, it does not matter how much...
  6. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 Was Jesus speaking literally

    amen, Work through the passage, from the start of Jesus conversation until the end
  7. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 Was Jesus speaking literally

    We have answered your question (at least I have) so many times I have lost count. Again I ask you. why do you focus on 7 words. and not the MANY words Jesus says.? O mean Peter did not take him literally. so why should I. especially. when the Flesh you claim jesus is talking about does not...
  8. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 Was Jesus speaking literally

    He did answer it, You just do not like his answer.
  9. Eternally Grateful

    John 6 Was Jesus speaking literally

    Your in error. It is not an OSAS discussion, it is a discussion on John 6 Lets see what Jesus said Here is what Jesus said. the whole conversation John 6. 26 Jesus answered them and said, “Most assuredly, I say to you, you seek Me, not because you saw the signs, but because you ate of the...
  10. Eternally Grateful

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    No. You mentioned they were done by believers. and thus not a work. If they were believers, they are already saved, and do not need communion or to get baptized. You doi realise catholics baptize babies before they even know who jesus is do you not? I never said otherwise now have I...
  11. Eternally Grateful

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    64 But there are some of you who do not believe.” For Jesus knew from the beginning who they were who did not believe, and who would betray Him some (plural) They (plural) and one (judas) yes. he meant the disciples who left.
  12. Eternally Grateful

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    spiritual food is not the literal flesh and blood of jesus so what are you arguing?
  13. Eternally Grateful

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    dude you are ignoring Jesus You quoted 1 sentence he said, Ignore what he said those who eat it WOULD recieve. and ignored everything else he said in the passage. You are sounding like a normal catholic who is spoonfed what to believe making you unable to actually discuss a passage in...
  14. Eternally Grateful

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    Yet you say they believed saved people do these works. not unsaved.. lol. They believe it is part of salvation.. I could really care less. I have many former catholics in my group. I know what they believe also. Not to mention I have spoken to many on here. they all say the same thing.
  15. Eternally Grateful

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    See. once again you proved my point YOUR FOCUSED ON 7 WORDS You not only ignore everythign else jesus said. But you ignore what he said that those who did what he asked would get. see how you refuse to even comment on those things?? Your making it way to easy for me to expose what your...
  16. Eternally Grateful

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    No this is your problem.. I agree with you. Nothing discounts what he said.,. I believe it ALLLLLL You just proved my point,. this is all you want to focus on You ignore the rest of what Jesus said I showed you (and the room) what seperates you and me, and you just proved it again.
  17. Eternally Grateful

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    He wanted them to see. But as he said, He knew from the begining who did not believe.
  18. Eternally Grateful

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    easy if you BELIEVE only difficult if you are hard of hearing.. Jesus said it in the very begining. You want fed physical food. I am here to give you spiritual food. which if you eat. you will live forever. Manna was food from God.. They ate and died My manna is the word of God. Which if I...
  19. Eternally Grateful

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    They believe you recieve communion and get baptized TO get saved. so in essence. since their belief is in their works. they are non believers, who believe non believers should do this so why do you not ask them?
  20. Eternally Grateful

    Is it possible to lose salvation?

    They left BECAUSE THEY DID NOT BLIEVE Here one more time for you to see. 1. Jesus said eat My Flesh and drink my blood 2. They responded. this is a hard saying who can understand it 60 Therefore many of His disciples, when they heard this, said, “This is a hard saying; who can understand it?”...