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the God of Israel speaks in Is 48: 12 Isaiah 48: 12 “Listen to Me, O Jacob, and Israel, My called: I am He, I am the First, I am also the Last. 13 Indeed My hand has laid the foundation of the earth, And My right hand has stretched out the heavens; When I call to them, They stand up together...

I am discussing your post # 130 where you seem to declare that Jesus will become God in the kingdom. again, can you please answer my question

you failed to answer my question will or did a mere human become God.

yes Yet there are many baptism. so which one saves? the one performed by God. or the one performed by man?

I thought this thread would die but I see it still limps Is the Op ready to answer? Why do you take Jesus literally concerning 7 words. But reject all the rest he said about the bread from heaven I ask again, why did Jesus lie why do you take the command literally. but refuse to take the...

its sad many want to commit blasphemy by giving man the credit for a work which is can only be completed by the HS

its like beating a dead horse. one thing we know for a fact. @nedsk has shown no authoritative understanding of the book of John. Unlike others who have taken him through the whole conversation and shown ALL the words of Jesus. @nedsk just wants to look at 7 words. Then he passes off any...

so a man becomes God.. Got it :rolleyes:

a fallacy that the great "I Am" was not God? That my friend is the fallacy

Jesus could not be a high priest if the sacrifice was not given. Jesus (the lamb of God) had to be God. otherwise he could not pay for all the sin of mankind. so he could possibly be a high priest for them.

lol.. I am not arguing, I am just posting ALL the words of God in john 6, and not just 6 f the words f God. You accuse me of rejecting the word of God. Yet you will not even discuss it. Again, You hurt yourself. The more you talk. The more you refuse to answer my questions about the words of...

your the one who has refused multiple times to show me how the literal words of Jesus are not true. so please stop. Your hurting yourself.. and your going to make it so no one listens to you.. Either show me why Jesus lied. or did not mean what he said. or move on. I am sick of playing child...

I believe it would be no different than jew adding circumcision to the gospel. PS. Paul called anyone who think we begin in the spirit (faith) but must perfect in the flesh) works) fools.. (gal 3

are they believers though? Where is their faith? In the God who saved them, or their church, or their own works and deeds?

Just stating facts. You use the same excuse the jews used. And think it will work for you?

so the prodigal son stopped being the son. He stopped having his fathers blood and DNA flow through him? Poor Guy..

when you believe in a works based system.. You have no other way to believe other than there are times you meet Gods standard. and times you do not.. you have failed to understand you at no point in your life ever met Gods standard..

The jews literally rejected the word o Jesus and had him crucified. because for 2000 years no one taught that the messiah would die a sinners death You can;t make it up that Satan decieved a nation before christ, he would not do it again after christ. He has done quite well..

Let me try to help you When someone posts the words of Christ. and then takes him literally in everything he said.. And lets the word interpret itself. that word is the authority of what is spoken.\ When someone like you. picks a few small words out of context. then refuses to even look at...

Yet you totally refuse to answer anything I have asked. or actually I think the right word, is you CAN'T Answer, because if you could. I am sure you would without hesitation yawn. The jews used history to crucify Christ.. You want to make that mistake feel free. Again, Until you answer why...