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  1. K

    No future hope for Israel in the Bible

    That’s true, but in all fairness, it’s also, and more importantly, defined as a nation, both in the Old and New Testament. It’s the nation of God. Israel is His people. But most importantly, you got to define as to who exactly this Israel is.
  2. K

    No future hope for Israel in the Bible

    Absolutely nothing, other than choosing the same name for itself, and having its residence in approximately the same area.
  3. K

    No future hope for Israel in the Bible

    What does the modern state of Israel have to do with Old Testament Israel?
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    No future hope for Israel in the Bible

    Sure they are. Seed of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob: And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise. (Gal 3:29) A nation before God: But you are a chosen race, a royal priesthood, a holy nation, a people for his own possession, that you may proclaim the...
  5. K

    Doctrine of successive resurrections

    Ye I always thought so, too. But what bothered me was that the passage says that “many of those who sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake”. This doesn’t line up with Jesus statement. You see it’s a direct contrast: many of those. So this cannot be about the last and final resurrection...
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    No future hope for Israel in the Bible

    I am not so sure why I should be interested in a commentary on Daniel from someone I have never known, who has never heard of the basic preterist understanding of the Olivet discourse, and who doesn’t know the difference between the old and new covenant. Doesn’t make any sense to me. What do...
  7. K

    No future hope for Israel in the Bible

    Hello, I want to present the most strong and undeniable argument that makes it absolutely impossible for any prophecy to take place regarding “Israel” in the Bible. I know that there were many fine Christians in history who held such a doctrine, even today all those who are called...
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    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    I basically believe the very same thing. Only “at the end of time“ means at the end of the mosaic or old covenant time for me.
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    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    Good question. But the tribulation, supposedly 3.5 years, only started when they would see Jerusalem surrounded by armies. So yeah, even if we suppose for the moment that all would be resurrected or raptured, I don’t think it would be a nice experience for the Christians to just let themselves...
  10. K

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    Well, that’s easy: and their dead bodies will lie in the street of the great city that symbolically is called Sodom and Egypt, where their Lord was crucified. (Rev 11:8) Jesus was crucified in Jerusalem. Why did you add that Jesus should sit on his glorious throne “on earth”? The text...
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    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    The text says: First Christ, then those of the Christ at his coming, then “to telos”, when he delivers up the kingdom to his Father. The question is about the Greek “to telos”, which some commentators argue could be translated “the rest”. But the word normally seems to have the meaning and...
  12. K

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    Yeah you can say it that way. Tolerated, or accepted. But definitely not required. The Old Covenant never was an alternative to Christ, even before Christs advent and crucifixion. So there isn't a direct correlation between the Old Covenant and Christ, in the sense that now that Christ is come...
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    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    He knew too that he didn't have to. But still, as you can see from the extract I have given, it was at that time (until 70 AD) still accepted with God. If you felt like you should keep the Law of Moses, the Old Covenant, without trusting in it, but while nonetheless trusting in Christ alone...
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    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    Jesus and the apostles didn't abolish the Old Testament worship, but they followed it (yes, even the apostles after the Great Commission). Here is an extract of John Owens introduction to the Epistle of the Hebrews, which he assumed was written by Paul: IV. He takes it for granted, in the whole...
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    Nephilim/Rephaim /Giants Hell connection in the Old Testament

    I prefer the Scripture to interpret the Scripture, as does Jesus and the New Testament writers and preachers. The Rephaim/Nephilim/Gibborim of the Old Testament (before and after the flood) went into hell immediately, the same place the rich man was in in Jesus story in Luke 16. They went into...
  16. K

    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    I'll have to think about all that you just wrote. But for the meantime, I have one very curious question for you regarding the position of the several resurrections: Do you believe that in 70 AD all believers were resurrected, and the living ones caught up to heaven? If so, then who would be...
  17. K

    Doctrine of successive resurrections

    There are other fine and possible views concerning that passage, here's one example by Ken Gentry: Daniel appears to be presenting Israel as a grave site under God’s curse: Israel as a corporate body is in the “dust” (Da 12:2; cp. Ge 3:14, 19). In this he follows Ezekiel’s pattern in his vision...
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    Matthew 24:30 may have a significant mistranslation

    I would argue it's the last days of the Old Covenant era, because that is how it is interpreted by the New Testament writers. Long ago, at many times and in many ways, God spoke to our fathers by the prophets, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son (Heb 1:1–2.)
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    Nephilim/Rephaim /Giants Hell connection in the Old Testament

    Here are the quotes by Thomas Goodwin and the original text by Joseph Mede, to complete the thread (it was too long I couldn't include it in the previous post): It is an excellent observation that a late critic hath made: that in the Old Testament, especially in the book of Proverbs, where hell...
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    Nephilim/Rephaim /Giants Hell connection in the Old Testament

    Hello, I found a really interesting take on who the Nephilim were, and that they seem to relate to the Old Testament doctrine of hell (the place of the damned). Let me, first of all, give you the general idea, and then I will show you the quotes of the theologians where it is argued. The idea...