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  1. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    Point of clarification: there was talk earlier about murdered gays being shot and beaten with bats and ‘not’ being lynched. When I said “attacked” I meant it literally and in that context. Not in the new age POV that mean words are equal to physical harm.
  2. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    She is wrong to me ... I attacked no one. I have barely criticized any LGBT (only the specific individuals that filed a lawsuit - FOR filing a lawsuit when they suffered no real harm). I criticize people that CLAIM to be Christian and think that declining to bake a cake is the same as a...
  3. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    "[Let's see if you can figure out what he was really saying and how it applies to your statement.]" - atpollard That would be a NO, to both.
  4. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    ... like people tired of "wolves in sheep clothes" championing the cause of REPROBATES by posting lies about what Christians believe. Is that what you meant? :cool:
  5. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    “The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.” ― Anatole France [Let's see if you can figure out what he was really saying and how it applies to your statement.]
  6. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    The right to force a Christian baker to do what other bakers are not forced to do (bake cakes they find objectionable) is a right that other groups do not enjoy. By definition, that makes it a "SPECIAL" right reserved for those that hate Christians ... which is EXACTLY what the SUPREME COURT...
  7. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    Held: The Commission’s actions in this case violated the Free Exercise Clause. Pp. 9–18. (a) The laws and the Constitution can, and in some instances must, protect gay persons and gay couples in the exercise of their civil rights, but religious and philosophical objections to gay marriage are...
  8. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    Wedding cakes are "special". They are all unique and vary by number of tiers and color schemes and decoration themes. If he had a "Wedding cakes to go" table of pre-made cakes, he would have sold them one because they would not have even needed to say who it was for. Wedding cakes are not...
  9. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    You really don't understand this freedom thing, do you? No minority HAS to do anything. Everyone is free to follow their conscience and do whatever seems right. [Buy or don't but ... that is each person's right. Make or don't make ... that is each craftsman's right.] No one was discriminated...
  10. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    You said NOTHING. Yes, you did IMPLY that it was his by posting just the image in response to his post.
  11. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    No, the Colorado baker already serves anyone that comes into his store. He already does not make special cakes for ANY occasion or with ANY message. The couple that sued (and State of Colorado) attempted to COMPEL FORCED LABOR from him, to abrogate the BAKER's freedoms because THEY were a...
  12. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    My point: You posted a sign to @JohnDB that I do not believe belongs to him. John is not from 1934 Alabama, so that is not his sign. The point behind the point: You are deliberately misrepresenting another Christian. That is not very "fruit of the Spirit".
  13. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    Good ... making you free to do so. You and others are also free to withold from buying from anyone that you believe is doing the wrong thing (as YOU define right and wrong). That is also part of your freedom. I just think the BAKER deserves the same freedom. He should not be FORCED to...
  14. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    Preaching to the choir. (I quoted Ephesians 2:1-3 in my original question). Even the original poster acknowledged that all men are not "Children of God" as the saved are "Children". I merely requested SOME Scripture to support their position and they provided it. Thus the view that there is a...
  15. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    ... because Bakers are not excluded from the protections of the 14th Amendment (Bakers are free men and not slaves, therefore it is illegal to compel [force] them to perform acts of labor.)
  16. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    If you were do die today, are you certain that you would go to heaven? (Your posts cause me to worry if you really understand the Gospel Message and definition of "Christian". FYI: those are not Christians.)
  17. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    The NRA and Second Amendment would both support Transgender People's equal right to Self Defense. Personally, I am a constitutional "Strict Constructionist" so I would also support it, but MANY States have banned both "Assault Style Weapons" [often defined as semi-automatic] and "High Capacity...
  18. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    Thank you. You finally see that you were comparing APPLES to ORANGES. In the segregated South, some men were refused service because of their skin color. In Colorado, bakers are being compelled to perform forced labor because of their Religious beliefs (a form of slavery). What happened in...
  19. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    True, but Satan and his children can try. Matthew 5:11-12 [NASB20] "Blessed are you when [people] insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in this same way they persecuted the prophets...
  20. atpollard

    Christian baker and transgender cake lawsuit

    Maybe, but credit where credit is due ... I requested Scripture to support the position and - agree or disagree with his interpretation of that scripture - He provided EXACTLY what was requested. :Agreed: