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  1. Wick Stick

    Of what value is retribution against humankind to God? - Love your enemies?

    They kinda do, though. The text also states, "Out of the belly of hell cried I," which suggests that he was not alive at the time. This conversation is about taking the text literally. That was what amigo and I were talking about. That doesn't leave room for a metaphorical interpretation. I...
  2. Wick Stick

    Of what value is retribution against humankind to God? - Love your enemies?

    The miracle in the book of Jonah is not that Jonah survived inside a fish/whale for 3 days. He didn't. Jonah died. Jonah 2:1 Then Jonah prayed unto the LORD his God out of the fish's belly, 2 And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of...
  3. Wick Stick

    If aliens from another world land and we meet them, does that affect your religious beliefs?

    I'm sorry, do you know me? You seem to think so. We're not familiar enough for you to be giving me cutesy nicknames. That's disrespectful. If you did this while standing in front of me, I would punch you.
  4. Wick Stick

    Of what value is retribution against humankind to God? - Love your enemies?

    If you're going to go full-literal, then it wasn't a whale. The Bible says "great fish" - דּג גּדול Jonah 1:17 Now the LORD had prepared a great fish to swallow up Jonah. And Jonah was in the belly of the fish three days and three nights. There are probably some translations out there that...
  5. Wick Stick

    If aliens from another world land and we meet them, does that affect your religious beliefs?

    Life in some form probably does exist on some of those planets. But they're never going to visit us, and we're never going to visit them. The distance between us is prohibitive. Traveling fast enough to make the trip within a lifetime... traveling that fast would kill whatever was onboard...
  6. Wick Stick

    If aliens from another world land and we meet them, does that affect your religious beliefs?

    Unfortunately, yes. The main difference between the two parties seems to be that the Democrats just tell us how they want to screw us over, while the Republicans still put up a facade of decency.
  7. Wick Stick

    If aliens from another world land and we meet them, does that affect your religious beliefs?

    Do you really think the Republican party is better? I think most of the people on both "sides" answer to the same corporate sponsors. I'm looking for anyone to vote for who isn't serving a globalist agenda, or a corporation's whims.
  8. Wick Stick

    If aliens from another world land and we meet them, does that affect your religious beliefs?

    I agree with Rockerduck? I mean... I agree with Rockerduck. Any so-called "aliens" that arrive from above, more likely have their origins below.
  9. Wick Stick

    What makes a doctrine false?

    In a place where everyone trips over each other to give answers, the one with questions controls the conversation.
  10. Wick Stick

    Separation of Church and State a Red Herring.

    God forbid. The men are meant to be men, not a parasite class.
  11. Wick Stick

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    ToJT? Time of..? Israel obviously underwent a time of tribulation during the First Jewish-Roman War (66-73AD). The church avoided that to a certain extent when they heeded Jesus' warning to flee to the hills when they saw Jerusalem compassed by armies. Israel also underwent a time of...
  12. Wick Stick

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Like I said, you can support that from several places. 1Th 4 is another. But Matt 25 isn't one of them. Different event referenced there. I believe paralambano is the word there.
  13. Wick Stick

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    You can support that from several places. Matt 25 isn't one of them, though. The people carried away there are the ones destroyed.
  14. Wick Stick

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Yes, like I said, these verses also demonstrate that the ones who are "raptured" aka gathered, are the evil ones that are burned. These verses don't support the idea of believers being carried off to heaven at Jesus' return.
  15. Wick Stick

    Do we have free will or are we predestined?

    Why appeal to an authority that nobody accepts? Not even her own church endorses her:
  16. Wick Stick

    Do we have free will or are we predestined?

    John 17:12 While I [Jesus] was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.
  17. Wick Stick

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Matt 24:37 But as the days of Noe [were], so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took...
  18. Wick Stick

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Matthew 24? The ones who are "raptured" there are the wicked, to their destruction
  19. Wick Stick

    How to receive the Holy Ghost

    It comes with the laying on of hands, by someone who already has the gift: Acts 8:18 And when Simon saw that through laying on of the apostles' hands the Holy Ghost was given, he offered them money, 1Timothy 4:14 Neglect not the gift that is in thee, which was given thee by prophecy, with the...
  20. Wick Stick

    Rapture Thoughts of Some Early Church Leaders

    Noah and the flood is a picture of baptism. 1Peter tells us so... 1Peter 3:20 who formerly were disobedient, when once the Divine longsuffering waited in the days of Noah, while [the] ark was being prepared, in which a few, that is, eight souls, were saved through water. 21 There is also an...