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  1. BreadOfLife

    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    I've been recovering from major surgery for the last month, so it has taken me time to respond. You keep speaking of the Early Church as if it were already split into 2 separate entities. It was NOT. The ONE Catholic Church existed before the East-West split in the 11th century. That's not to...
  2. BreadOfLife

    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    The East-West schism took place in the 11th century (1054 AD). There was ONE unified Catholic Church when the 2nd Council of Constantinople took place. By the end of the Fourth century, Origen’s writings were being spread and taught. During this time, it was Epiphanus of Salamis who first...
  3. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    This only proves that you do NOT understand Scripture. Luke 14:26 tells us that we cannot follow Christ unless we HATE our father. Either this is a direct contradiction of Exod. 20:12, which tells us that we must HONOR our father and mother – OR, it’s just hyperbolic language. The Bible is...
  4. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Limited and feeble? The Bible tells is that not only does God have Agape for us (Rom. 5:8, 1 John 3:1) – but that He IS Agape (1 John 4:8). Your heretical objections are pathetic . . . No, Agape IS love – and I’ve given you ample Scriptural evidence. You argue for the sake of arguing – even...
  5. BreadOfLife

    Where did Christian Universalism come from? - New or old?

    I can always count on you to make idiotic statements like this . . . Origen was a Church Father who eventually went into heresy with his Universalist views. The Catholic Church condemned this heresy LONG before your Protestant Fathers even existed. Do your homework . . .
  6. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    WRONG again. Agape is the love that God has for us – and that we are to have for each other. As I educated you in my last post – God is love and God is justice. I’ve destroyed your argument repeatedly – and yet, you keep coming back for more. So, here’s some more . . . In the NT, the word...
  7. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    You cannot have true love unless you advocate for justice. God is love (1 John 1:4-8) – and He is Justice (Psalm 7:11, 89:14) . . . Like an angry child throwing blind punches in the dark . . .
  8. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Greek already has a word for “consider/consideration” – and it’s NOT Agape. It is theoró (θεωρώ). Your continued insistence on re-defining Agape just to win an argument is just pathetic . . .
  9. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    Not in ANY Greek dictionary or concordance that I know of. AI was one of MANY sources I consulted. YOU, on the other hand, invent your own definitions . . .
  10. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    I quoted SEVERAL scholarly sources. How about Jesus?? John 13:34 “A new command I give you: Love (agape) one another. As I have loved (ag-ap-ah'-o) you, so you must love (agape) one another. YOU just don’t like being proven WRONG . . . Peter didn’t kill Ananaias and Sapphira. The Holy Spirit...
  11. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    And your ad hominem attacks are all the proof I need to know that you’ve LOST this debate . . .
  12. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    WRONG. - he loved them. He didn’t “disregard” them any more than a parent disregards a disobedient child It was his duty to scold them. I sure hope you’re NOT a parent . . . Nonsense. You can continue to redefine the word ‘agape’ to YOUR preference – but you’ll STILL be wrong. The weight of...
  13. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    It's impossible for people like YOU who have no faith. Jesus commands us to love our enemies. Matt. 5:43-45 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, LOVE YOUR ENEMIES and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your...
  14. BreadOfLife

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Do you realize how stupid and ignoran that sounds? You sound like a typical racist who says that all black people are criiinals because he knows a few who are. Most of the Catholics I know read the Bible - and I've been Catholic for over 50 years . . . Firs of all - , if you knew your Bible...
  15. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    WRONG again. No - it is the verb for of agape. which is defined as a "selfless and sacrificial love". Matt. 22:39 uses this verb (agapao / ἀγαπήσεις), referring to a committed, volitional love rather than just affection
  16. BreadOfLife

    "Before Abraham Was, I AM"

    WRONG. Matt. 22:39 ἀγαπήσεις τὸν πλησίον σου ὡς σεαυτόν. “LOVE (agapeo) your neighbor as yourself.”
  17. BreadOfLife

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    And I have handily dispelled that ignoorant myth . . .
  18. BreadOfLife

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    If you’re gonna be an anti-Catholic – at LEAST be an honest one . . . And it IS a Biblical doctrine . . . The Father is God Eph. 4:6, Psalm 68:5, Mal. 2:10, 2 Cor. 1:3-4, John 3:16, John 8:41, 1 Thess. 3:13 The Son is God Isaiah 7:14, Isaiah 9:6, Matt. 4:7, John 1:1, John 1:3, John 8:58, John...
  19. BreadOfLife

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    The problem with these guys is that they let their pride get the better of them. None of them was scholarly enough to translate the Bible into ANY language. The result was bad translations that were full of errors, leading MANY peopoe astray. Wycliffe’s heresies included the denial of the...
  20. BreadOfLife

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Ummmm, maybe it’s because they were HANDWRITTEN and weren’t available to the masses until the advent of the printing press in the 15th century. Good grief . . . The Catholic Church does NOT elevate doctrines “over” Scripture. Where do you get this nonsense?? Do you know WHY people were...