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    Four horseman in Revelation

    Marty, here is the draft for the red horse of chapter 6: Revelation 6:3-4 (second seal) 3 When He opened the second seal, I heard the second living creature saying, “Come and see.” 4 Another horse, fiery red, went out. And it was granted to the one who sat on it to take peace from the earth...
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    Four horseman in Revelation

    Thank you for sharing this. I have indeed read similar interpretations like Mr. Fortners. There is no consensus among scholars regarding the identity of the white horse or most of Revelation. Both Daniel and Revelation are more than difficult to unpack. But I do see the structure of Revelation a...
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    This is the context of how Dan. 9:24-27 should be considered!

    I don’t believe we are in disagreement here. The Book of Daniel is a prophetic writing that begins in the context of Jerusalem’s fall and the exile of its people to Babylon around 606 BC. From that point, Daniel records not only the events that unfold during the seventy-year captivity, but also...
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    Four horseman in Revelation

    Marty, here is a draft for the first horseman in Revelation - the white horse. I will post the next horse tomorrow but I would like your (and anyone's) thoughts on this. Thanks. Revelation 6:1-2 (First seal) 1 Now I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals; and I heard one of the four living...
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    This is the context of how Dan. 9:24-27 should be considered!

    I would say that Daniel may be approximately 80% symbolic / prophetic while Revelation is around 90 - 95 % symbolic. Despite “today’s accepted interpretations” for both books, Daniel is not a history book and should not be interpreted as such! For the most part, “today’s accepted...
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    Four horseman in Revelation

    You certainly do not have to agree with my interpretations!!!!!! But I do attempt to try and fit all the pieces of the puzzle together and, in this case, I feel they fit quite nicely with the “Daniel puzzle pieces.” For me, I believe there are only two things to consider and focus on as a...
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    Four horseman in Revelation

    Thanks Marty. Here are some of my thoughts at this time: that just as God describes His church through the 7 churches that cover the 2000 years after the cross, He also might give us an understanding of the power that goes against His church during that same time frame. In Daniel, He goes to...
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    Four horseman in Revelation

    Thank you for your comments. Revelation, like Daniel is quite difficult to unpack… but it is meant to be understood. With many folks focusing on these verses we should be able to consider the ways they are being presented…
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    Four horseman in Revelation

    With all due respect, you copied the Scriptures only. Now, we have to interpret them. Just as in the Book of Daniel where we are given 4 different symbols of the kingdoms we have to interpret them and also identify their timing and their reason for God including them in those prophecies. In...
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    Four horseman in Revelation

    Thank you!
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    Four horseman in Revelation

    Thank you, but what tells you that?
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    Four horseman in Revelation

    Yes, I understand but didn't He also reveal in Daniel 7, 8 and 11 there would come the little horn who would go against His church, His commandments, His people and even speak blasphemous things against Him? Could not this evil one represent the 4 horseman that inflicts these 4 types of harm to...
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    Four horseman in Revelation

    So, the 4 horseman do not represent a literal figure or figures that display these horrible characteristics against His church? Do you see there might be those 7 churches being found over the 2000 year period?
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    Four horseman in Revelation

    Thank you for your thoughts!!!!!
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    Four horseman in Revelation

    Thank you for your thoughts!!!! I have recently started to study Revelation, now that Daniel is finished, so I would like to hear some thoughts on some early interpretations that I think I see (and of course, this is due to the patterns and ways God has revealed the Book of Daniel). Have you...
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    Four horseman in Revelation

    Thanks, but who are they and what is your interpretation?
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    Four horseman in Revelation

    Does anyone have a fairly good understanding of who these 4 horseman represent? Do they take place during / at the end times or are they affecting us today (and by today I mean during the past XXX years after the cross)? Thanks.
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    This is the context of how Dan. 9:24-27 should be considered!

    Here is a cut / paste from the chapter 9 narrative within the Daniel commentary. The Anointing of the Most Holy When Daniel speaks of the purpose “to anoint the Most Holy” (Daniel 9:24), the language naturally points to consecration—an...
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    This is the context of how Dan. 9:24-27 should be considered!

    Here is a partial cut / paste from my chapter 9 commentary on Daniel: Until Messiah the Prince, there shall be seven weeks and sixty-two weeks… Gabriel’s message to Daniel delivers one of the most remarkable timelines in all of Scripture—a countdown to the arrival of the Messiah. According to...
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    Daniel 7:11 “the beast.”

    Not surprised at all. Best wishes.