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You never give any texts to show scripture as I presented it is false. You make statements like above but it just an assertion. Like scripture to support your premise that Christ died ONLY for so-called elect? If this is what you believe then how does scripture support it against all the texts...

So you disagree with your own statement. The point here does He intercede for those you call non-elect? You stated before that He intercedes ONLY for those He died for. Can we assume then that all the Pharisees, Caiphas, Pilate, the Roman soldiers at His so-called trial were all elect and saved?

Based on both geneologies, one in Luke who goes backward from Mary, and Matt forward from Adam. This has nothing to do with mankind, but simply the geneology of Christ by virtue of His Incarnation through Mary and the Holy Spirit. So you hold that ONLY the individuals of Christ's geneology...

He does not intercede for anyone, unless or until one believes and becomes a member of His Body, His Church. Howevr, your so-called non-elect are not left alone. After all every human being will give an account to God for what each did with the knowledge of God. Rom 1:18-24 Rom 2:5-9. Rev 20...

I accept that we will not agree. However, what seems so obvious to me is not obvious to others. However, a lot of Biblical Truth would of necessity need to be denied also. That man did not suffer Condemnation of death through Adam. Christ did not die for mankind, the world If He did not die for...

This is what happens when you pick and choose words or phrases out of context and apply them to something not even in the context. You got one thing correct. This is Christ High Priestly prayer, Let's break it down to its parts: vs 1-5 Jesus is praying for Himself. Vs 6-19 He is specifically...

Well, that is not saying much. Every false teaching has been based on scripture. Citing scripture and then putting your spin on it does not make it a Truth of scripture. So, He starts out with the concept He is the shepherd, uses sheep. Now, would it make sense that He would then switch...

You seem to be in the same boat as Brightfame52. He denies most of scripture to support his personal theology that Christ redeemed ONLY some people, which he also believers were predestinated as believers or to be believers. In this context it is natural to accept the idea that Jesus died...

Your premise is false, non scriptural, thus your arguments are false. Very simply, Christ died for THE SHEEP, actually the world, so He could have His sheep. Now, those that do believe have become HIS sheep. They believe and will follow Him. Those who are not His sheep obviously will not...

Nothing above precludes the fact that Christ died for mankind. He saved mankind from the curse of death. His purpose- to be able to call all men to repentance, to become HIS sheep. Until one believes, one is not one of His sheep. The issue here is that Brightfame52 believes that Christ ONLY...

He died for every human being, so that all of mankind would be free to choose whether to serve Him or become a member of a false church. Just as He died for everyone who will be judged to hell. It was their choice to reject Him.

The word THE does not mean MY sheep. Vs 15 says the same thing. Why would Jesus speak of the sheep when includes all (sheep), but then those that are His He uses my sheep. Vs 16 also the same thing. He needed to die for the sheep (all human beings) so that He could call all (sheep) men to...

This is such a gross misunderstanding of scripture. Clearly this person does not understand Christ's Incarnation and His universal redemption of the world. John 3:16-17, II Cor 5:18-19, Col 1:20. The fact is, Christ died for the world and everyone in it. He became Man, took on our human...

Your definition below means the same thing. Exchanged His death for our death, and His sacrifice for our sin. That is a reconcilition, to make right, or redeem, or to make righteous. it did the same thing only animal sacrifices were used to make man right with God again.

Christ's atonement has two parts. First, He defeated death for all men, this is objective, man has no part to play in this aspect. (Saved them from death. Secondly, He performed a sacrifice for sin. This sacrifice is not objective. When man believes and repents, confesses his sin, Christ is...

This is a eucharist statement looking forward to the feast. It means His offering is not just for His people but also for the life of the world. I have yet to see any translation, Greek to English that translates WORLD to elect. World is cosmos or world order. It matches IJohn 2:2. Yes...

So, now you make God the source/author of sin. Why would God punish sin if He is the creator of sin? Why hold man responsible for his sin when in your theology God is responsible for our sin. Where is this concept taught in scripture?

It's not interpretation. It's understanding. It has been clearly understood now for 2000 years and has not changed except for your understanding. Belief comes before baptism. He is referring to the indwelling of the Holy Spirit which is a gift given to those that have believed and been...

That may be your interpretation but is not scriptural. Having the indwelling of the Holy Spirit is a gift given ONLY to believers. Peter spells out the sequence in Acts 2:38, Believe, repent, be baptized and you shall receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Which is the same as Johm3:5

The post is much to long to make specific statements on each of your statements. Since they all deal with the same content, dealing with the Holy Spirit I'll confine my remarks to that subject. You have a view of the Holy Spirit and how one gets the indwelling of the Holy Spirit that is not...