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Very interesting. Thanks for sharing!

I don't believe that water baptism saves; I believe that Jesus was referring to spiritual baptism, which obviously does save. After all, many have received water baptism and thereafter lived wicked lives.

I believe that's up to Jesus.

@TrevorHL I don't want to nitpick or split hairs. I'm 100% in favor of people studying and understanding what Jesus wants and expects from those who wish to follow him. Let me share more. I have been looking for a church through which I can be baptized. I haven't found one. I rejected a...

I believe a statement of faith is entirely appropriate, depending on what the statement says, of course. :) Are you able to share yours? To me it could be as simple as "I believe that Jesus is the Son of God and that he is both my Lord and Savior and with this baptism I pledge to repent from...

Desirable? Of course. Necessary? No. I've known people who knew little to no scriptures but who believed in Jesus and absolutely lived like him. People who profess belief and demonstrate that belief daily by emulating Christ are certainly ready to be baptized, in my humble opinion.

@Truly Forever Hell is not true. One has to reject a mountain of scripture to believe in it. Torment as used by the New Testament writers (basanizo) is also a refining term. It's also interesting that the "Lake of Fire" only appears in Revelation and nowhere else in the Bible. Basanizo...

Thank you. In my humble opinion knowledge of scriptures shouldn't be required. It's certainly not biblical. I believe a statement of faith, repentance, and a desire to follow and emulate Christ in all things should suffice. To require more than that is to potentially turn away those that want...

Your theology is all wrong.

No idea. Just asking a question.

What if the local church requires members to take classes to be baptized?

What happens to people who repent, believe in and follow Jesus but never receive water baptism?

So one is saved by water baptism regardless of anything else?

How rude. Time for that "ignore" feature.

You are ignoring the verses that contradict your theological position because you are unwilling to modify your position based on the scriptures. You simply parrot other scriptures as if they somehow negate the scriptures that refute your position. I won't bother you further.

Just for the record, I said no such thing.

Jesus said he would return during the lifetimes of some of the Apostles. Paul also prophesied that Jesus would return, but for a limited purpose. Hebrews 9:28 English Standard Version 28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with...

Isn't that what Paul was describing here? Hebrews 9:28 English Standard Version 28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to deal with sin but to save those who are eagerly waiting for him.

That's what I believed too, but this statement by Paul indicates Jesus returning for a second time but for a limited purpose, which apparently occured in 70 AD as Jesus said he would. Hebrews 9:28 English Standard Version 28 so Christ, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will...

I used to share your view, until I looked closely at the scriptures.