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  1. J

    God Created All Humanity When He Created Adam

    Nope, still not worth the shelf space.
  2. J

    God Created All Humanity When He Created Adam

    Not worth the shelf space.
  3. J

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    So he only predestined the OT saints. That is a bit of an odd interpretation. The action of God foreknowing and predestining is indeed past tense. But those who love God (v. 28) is not limited to past tense. It doesn't say those who loved God. Thus I understand that those who love God are...
  4. J

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Pure Calvinist Bovine Scat.
  5. J

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    That is all pure Calvinist gobbledygook. KJV For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: NASB For by grace you have been saved through faith; and that not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; Firs,t know that there is no "it is" in the Greek...
  6. J

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    I think you are grossly misunderstanding of what Paul is saying there, but I won't bother trying to correct it.
  7. J

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Faith to believe was acquired by Christ?? Where in the Scriptures do you read that? The fact is that nonsense is nowhere to be found in the Scriptures either directly or indirectly. To have faith and to believe are from the exact same verb in the Greek. Faith and belief arre from the exact...
  8. J

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    God's sovereignty will never be exercised against anyone wanting to believe in God. If you are one who contends that God's sovereignty demands determinism, I can understand your aversion to the simple and straightforward definition and meaning of foreknow being "to know beforehand", that is...
  9. J

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    I really don't understand what it is that you are trying to prove. God foreknew that Judas would betray Jesus for thirty pieces of silver. That doesn't apply to all people; it applies only to Judas. So yes, those He foreknew in Romans 8:29 were those who, it said in Romans 8:28, love God. And...
  10. J

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Yes it is really just astounding; that is, it is astounding that you make such an egregious error in understanding God's foreknowledge. Do you really believe that all things ~ every thing ~ that happens in the course of your live is good? That is amazing. You are the first person I have come...
  11. J

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    People are not given faith. It is acquired. For some it takes lots of time and energy. For others, such as some of us who were raised in a Christian home, it can come quite easily. Rom 10:17 So faith comes from hearing, and hearing through the word of Christ. And in the verses you are...
  12. J

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    The meaning of the word "foreknowledge" and related words don't need any adjustment depending on context. It is fundamentally an absolute character trait of God. It is His omniscience applied to the future.
  13. J

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    The important thing to understand relative to the foreknowledge in Romans 6:29 is that God foreknew those who love God (Rom 8:28). Verses 29 and 39 then proceed to explain what are the "all things" in verse 28 that work together for good for those who love God.
  14. J

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Yes of course. I believe that the crucifixion of Jesus was based, at least in part, upon God's foreknowledge of what the scribes, pharisees, Judas, and Pontius Pilate would do. So while the crucifixion was predestined, it was not necessary that what the scribes, pharisees, Judas and Pontius...
  15. J

    When are God's Elect Justified?

    Quite the opposite. Justification emanates from faith. Rom_3:28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Rom_5:1 Therefore being justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ:
  16. J

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    God foreknew that Judas would betray Jesus Christ. So according to you Judas was predestined to be conformed to the image of Christ. I really don't think that was what Paul was saying at all.
  17. J

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    But even those whom Jesus claims to never knew were foreknown by God; thus directly countering your contention of changing the meaning of the word foreknow.
  18. J

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    Yes, we can do that too. But that is not what you are doing. You are changing the very definition of the word. There is no metaphor in your redefinition of words.
  19. J

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    You just did it again.
  20. J

    Elect or Not Elect: Why ALL Should Be Alarmed

    You are doing what Calvinists always do. They have to redefine the meaning of words, otherwise, their theology, particularly their soteriology, makes no sense; that is the case with the whole concept of TULIP. Foreknowledge is not causative. Foreknowing and predestining are two entirely...