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  1. J

    Romans 6

    What is really sad is that Behold must think that he doesn't sin. That has to be some humongous ego to think that. 1Jn 1:7 But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin. 1Jn 1:8 If we say we...
  2. J

    What are we doing?

    Whether one is saved or condemned is established in this life. Once the end comes, either by death or the end of the age, and Jesus has returned, it is too late and that can't be changed at the Judgment seat of Christ.
  3. J

    Harris quote: "Trump doesn't care about border security" ???

    That, of course, is a completely separate question. It is not an easy question for me to answer since I believe that the weakness of the present administration is largely responsible for both wars. We do we do now that both are on-going is a real problem, probably solvable but I am not sure I...
  4. J

    Harris quote: "Trump doesn't care about border security" ???

    Even $20B could have done wonders if it was spent appropriately. I am not sure, but I think that would have been more than enough to complete the wall that Trump started.
  5. J

    What are we doing?

    That judgment (at the judgment seat of Chris) will be after Jesus returns. By that time the final destination of each and every person has been established. The judgment concerning what was done with what had been given must be only for the relative rewards given.
  6. J

    Harris quote: "Trump doesn't care about border security" ???

    The bill would have been no good for border security without all that other stuff in there. It was a bill to spend a lot of money the didn't even try to stop illegal immigration but instead simply facilitated the paperwork associated with dealing with the large influx of illegal immigrants.
  7. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    You think the rest of us need to look to you to see what the author left out in his overly efficient presentation??? That is pretty funny when you think about it for a second or two.
  8. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    JohnDB, you can express all the sadness you want, but unless you are willing to support your views with actual scriptural references, no one should pay very much attention to what you think.
  9. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    You can prove me wrong by listing the replies with any scriptural references in support of your posts. I went back over your last 20+ postings and there is not a single reference quoted in support of any of your claims. And you want me to believe that you have any knowledge whatsoever worth...
  10. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    Why would I give any real thought to what you've written when not a single thing has been supported with scripture? It is all just a figment of your imagination.
  11. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    You need to climb off of that High Horse you are riding and get down to earth. You made some completely unsupported claim in your reply #67 that "Born from Above" was one used to classify certain heroes of Israel's history. From there you posted reply after reply and all without any...
  12. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    I don't know that I have any requirement or desire to understand you. With respect to that beyond the physical world, I have only what I can read in the Bible, unlike you apparently.
  13. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    And just what did that consist of? " thorns and thistles it shall bring forth for you; and you shall eat the plants of the field" (Gen 3:18). Yes, I could imagine that could indeed be really scary for you. And I think God for that. Your's is little more than a Master Puppeteer pulling the...
  14. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    Nor does your reading it differently make it so. Of course God reacts as events unfold. The fact that He foreknew and planned for the reaction, doesn't make the occasion for that reaction already past in this realm. I agree with that. But there is that moment in the life of the saint when he...
  15. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    That it means something different than what Jesus taught. You said, if I understand correctly, that Jesus' statement concerning born from above means something altogether different from Peter's statement concerning born again. I think they are one and the same thing, namely, the making alive...
  16. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    I have no problem with the born from above translation/interpretation. I do perhaps have a problem with what you think that means. But since you have not given any real description or scriptural support for that, I will just leave it there.
  17. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    OK. Let's start this again from the beginning. I think your first entry into this discussion was reply #65 suggesting we needed some other term. The again in reply #67 saying something about "born from above" being one used to classify certain heroes of Israel's history. So far as I can see...
  18. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    I didn't accuse you of anything. I simply reacted to what you claimed.
  19. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    So sad that you fail to understand verse three. The average adult male is by nature a bigamist. That doesn't mean he is one.
  20. J

    Born again - Before, or After, the Call?

    Dead in OUR trespasses and sins, not in any "sinful nature". You mentioned sin nature again. Could you please point out the scripture reference for that sin nature that you are talking about. I think the preincarnate Spirit who came to earth in the form of a human baby from Mary was divine...