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  1. Eliyahu613

    What is the difference between a Jew and a Christian?

    Bs"d Let's get serious. Here's an example of the list of the "324 messianic prophecies": Gen. 5:24....The bodily ascension to heaven illustrated.... Here is Gen 5:24; "Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him.” Can anybody seriously say this is a messianic prophecy?? And...
  2. Eliyahu613

    What is the difference between a Jew and a Christian?

    Bs"d The hundreds of messianic prophecies that the Christians see don't exist. What they do is ripping texts which have no bearing on the messiah what so ever out of context, and presenting them as "messianic prophecies fulfilled by JC", something they are obviously not. For the finer...
  3. Eliyahu613

    What is the difference between a Jew and a Christian?

    Bs"d Micha 5:2-9; "But thou Bethlehem Ephratah, though thou be little among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me that is to be ruler in Israel; whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting. Therefore will he give them up, until the time that she...
  4. Eliyahu613

    Who is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?

    Bs"d Isaiah 9:2-7 "2 The people who walked in darkness have seen a great light; those who dwelt in a land of deep darkness, on them has light shined. 3 Thou hast multiplied the nation, thou hast increased its joy; they rejoice before thee as with joy at the harvest, as men rejoice when they...
  5. Eliyahu613

    What is the difference between a Jew and a Christian?

    Bs"d Even in the New Testament there is NOT ONE SINGLE WITNESS of his resurrection. No man saw him get up from the grave and walk away. Oh, but he appeared to his disciples. Well, in that case, can you explain to me why nobody recognized him? Look in Luke 24:13-35. This speaks about the men...
  6. Eliyahu613

    What is the difference between a Jew and a Christian?

    Bs"d Out of the top of my head I can come up with about 6 messianic prophecies.
  7. Eliyahu613

    Micah 5:2 " “But thou, Bethlehem Ephrathah, ..... whose goings forth have been from of old, from everlasting.”

    Bs"d When I was searching for Micah 5:2, I saw that this verse is many times used to claim that the messiah is going to be God Himself, because he is from everlasting. Therefore a separate topic about that. Micah 5:2 “But as for you, Bethlehem Ephrathah, Too little to be among the clans...
  8. Eliyahu613

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    Bs"d Since there are millions of Jews, you can find Jews who believe about everything. The vast body of religious Jews believe all the same. There are some fringe groups, but that you'll find everywhere.
  9. Eliyahu613

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    Bs"d But not in Jewish teaching. And then he throws it overboard.
  10. Eliyahu613

    What is the difference between a Jew and a Christian?

    Bs"d Give me a few messianic prophecies fulfilled by your messiah.
  11. Eliyahu613

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    Bs"d "In those days" doesn't sound like thousands of years later.
  12. Eliyahu613

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    Bs"d Only a very small minority of messianic Jews will believe that Isaiah 53 speaks about the messiah. Yes.
  13. Eliyahu613

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    Bs"d No, I'm not saying that. The whole JC thing might have happened. I'm just saying that the whole messiah thing was never a big deal in Judaism. No, the Jews never accepted him as the messiah, with maybe a handful exceptions. It were the non-Jews who started Christianity. Also the...
  14. Eliyahu613

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    Bs"d It is very obvious when you read the plain text of Isaiah 53, that it does not speak about the messiah, but about Israel. For the finer details look here: Isaiah 53 Yes.
  15. Eliyahu613

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    Bs"d I don't think it was ever important. Christianity is all focused on the messiah, as the name implies. Judaism is about God and His laws.
  16. Eliyahu613

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    Bs"d You can read here more about that: asmachta
  17. Eliyahu613

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    Bs"d What rabbinical writings are you talking about?
  18. Eliyahu613

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    Bs"d Yes. Zacheriah 9:9-10; "Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion; shout, O daughter of Jerusalem: behold, thy King cometh unto thee: he is just, and having salvation; lowly, and riding upon an ass, and upon a colt the foal of an ass. And I will cut off the chariot from Ephraim, and the...
  19. Eliyahu613

    Who is the suffering servant in Isaiah 53?

    Bs"d There are no two comings of the messiah. Only one. Look here in chapter 3: Notestament Children are punished for the sins of the fathers, unto the third and fourth generation. That means that descendants who come thousands of years later are not punished for the sins of forefathers...
  20. Eliyahu613

    Who is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob?

    Bs"d Why would that be?