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The point being we are saved by our choice in coming to Jesus, not who our parents are In the normal sense, Israel is a certain people. It was always really only the believers. When the Messiah came, it became, of course about belief in Him The land promised was actually real. Specific borders...

Yes until we are born of the spirit, we are dead. ..and..? No. IF we come to Him THEN we are born again. That which is born of the spirit is that person that comes to Jesus. Not some pre born special few. Otherwise he died for nothing But He gives it anyhow! That is the nice thing about mercy...

No. Never. Being a son of Abraham by faith has nothing to do with pedigree What was the verse that said Israel is everyone? I must have missed that. The promised land is still what it was. When Jesus talks to us He makes it clear it is a city He prepared in heaven, not the promised land on...

As already mentioned, yes, we believers who choose Jesus then begin to be transformed into the image of Jesus. He predetermined that we would be able to do that because of His sacrifice that would make it possible. Not some forced rape like thing. ? Do you seriously not understand the passage...

No. Salvation has nothing to do with lineages. The promise to restore a saved Israel remnant does. As far as salvation goes. When Jesus rebuked the Pharisees, He acknowledge their lineage. But that did not save them, they were still the children of hell. That does not change the promise to...

Name me anyone that God did not try to attract/draw to Himself? Thankfully He does that! So we who choose to come to Him (indeed drawn by God of course) can do so. Don't think that He died for nothing. He died to make a way for us. Not because only some would be 'drawn' to God anyhow...

No, the tribulation is a specific time given in Daniel and Revelation. Nothing to do with now. I won't dispute that we could be very near that time What equation? Salvation? Of course not. Israel and it's remnant in the end? Well, to a degree that has to do with their lineages. Yes the...

The end the bible talks about, actually is around the time He returns. In that time of Jacob's trouble, the Great Tribulation. That time unlike any other time in history past present or future. That time. Not some general vague 'whoever gets saved anytime' are 'surviving Jews'! It matters for...

Remnant of...what? The surviving Jews who get saved in the end, and then get restored by Jesus to the promised land are a remnant of Israel, Pinseeker. There are people of all nations called. There will also be saved Jews called after they get saved. Called to the promised land according to...

Multitudes are saved in that period, including some Jews in the very end. The context of the verse you quote, however is Zion and Jerusalem. That is probably talking about the remnant. The Jewish survivors (who then get saved) So basically we agree on some things and not on others. I guess we...

OK, in the true sense, yes, of course. Yet many claim to be. Jesus spoke to some of them whose claim was that they were. So when we desire a better country, we desire ourselves? Hebrews 11:16 But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one Hebrews 13:14 For here we do not...

The point being we are gone then, and new believers come to faith in the last years. The end of the age for believers will be when Jesus takes up up into the air. The end of the age for new believers after that will be when He returns to earth. Ok. Sad. That reminds me, I was reading a...

No. The remnant is not every nation etc. It is survivors that are Jewish after most Jews are killed. Yes, we shall. The remnant and us. They happen to inherit a piece of land in the mideast. That is what God promises. Not giving it to the united nations, sorry I am not transparent gold...

No. I never said that. Most will not. Only some survivors will decide to believe, God does not make them. He just knows they will It is a certainty. Prophesy is a good as done. A nation can be born is a day with God! He is more than just reasonable. No. They are the ones dong something. They...

That means they will not get that promised land, regardless of what else they get. So you are saying they won't get it. Also that we can go ahead and toss the many promises of God that say they will in the garbage The truth may sound foreign and funny to some. Yes treating some different than...

OK, so also to the saved remnant So how about the sun and moon will remain even in the new earth? (made new) Nothing replaces promises. I would go with an interpretation that has the sun and moon and ordinances still here. The fact that spiritual bodies in heaven do not need the light from...

Oh. Amen. They get saved like everyone else. God just knows that some survivors of Israel will decide to do that in the end.

We are all one big happy family. The saved remnant of the end included. In a family, one child might grow up be a dentist, another a salesman, another a stay at home parent, and another a delivery driver. It doesn't mean they all have to live in the same town or do the same thing. The saved...

Not sure is that is sarcasm or whatever. I don't much follow the religious terms like dispensation etc - and and not very familiar with what they believe or preach.

Right, though it be without our heads possibly in most cases. (I would point out that the 'we' here will be believers alive on earth in that period) Right, for believers, He is coming to take us up in the air. Thankfully we are not appointed to wrath. But even the believers that come to be in...