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  1. Nondenom40

    Forsake ALL your sins or eternal damnation awaits!

    If you think the gospel is something that simply changes ones mind then you have a flawed concept of the gospel. The gospel changes the heart, i.e. makes one born again, a new creation. One is taken from the kingdom of darkness and brought over to the kingdom of light, an adopted son or daughter...
  2. Nondenom40

    Forsake ALL your sins or eternal damnation awaits!

    Another strawman. No one has even suggested what youre claiming. Go back and re-read my posts on this. Read the verses then come back for a dialogue. All any of you are doing is projecting, then instead of actually discussing scripture you create your own strawman then knock it down.
  3. Nondenom40

    Forsake ALL your sins or eternal damnation awaits!

    And you've yet to examine any verse critically to show where they are out of context. You simply repeat the same ole same ole.....yawn. If you want to have a discussion then step up.
  4. Nondenom40

    Forsake ALL your sins or eternal damnation awaits!

    Please link is to anyone that has actually said these things. Thanks in advance.
  5. Nondenom40

    Forsake ALL your sins or eternal damnation awaits!

    I cited the bible, period. Hows that twisting it? I see you offer no counter to those verses but to say i've twisted them. Hardly a meaningful refutation. And no one said 'God endorses sin'. Straw man much?
  6. Nondenom40

    Forsake ALL your sins or eternal damnation awaits!

    Gottcha, Paul wasn't a christian then; 1 Tim 1 This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. Peter wasn't a christian; Gal 2 14 But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the...
  7. Nondenom40

    Is There Different Beliefs Among Catholics? Chrislam Movement?

    So your church never made the claim that outside of the rcc there is no salvation? You gonna stick with that? The seds after vat 2 had nothing to bark about right? They completely missed the point?o_O "As for people who disagree with the Pope – there have ALWAYS been dissidents within the...
  8. Nondenom40

    Is There Different Beliefs Among Catholics? Chrislam Movement?

    This is what you said; Unless youre omniscient you have no clue what other people know. This is the arrogance of catholicism. Ah yes, acorn to oak tree gibberish. You just keep adding to the same thing to be further enlightened. "Theres NO salvation outside of the rcc, but..." Thats...
  9. Nondenom40

    Is There Different Beliefs Among Catholics? Chrislam Movement?

    Right, so you know all the names of the people ive seen discuss this and you KNOW they are ignorant? Thats arrogant on your part don't ya think? Is there an encyclical prior to vat 2 that says people outside of the rcc can be saved? Because catholic teaching was that there is NO salvation...
  10. Nondenom40

    Is There Different Beliefs Among Catholics? Chrislam Movement?

    Ligouri is both a Dr. and saint in your church. Is his 'The Glories of Mary' considered a faithful treatment of catholic teaching? He calls mary omnipotent several times. Is this just him inventing it or is it catholic teaching? And regarding 'finding truth or inventing it'....How exactly does...
  11. Nondenom40

    How Should We Read the Church Fathers?

    The bible is full of verses regarding defending the faith, exposing false doctrine and correcting those in error; 2 Tim 3:16 Jude 3 Eph 5:11....for starters. It is absolutely the job of the believer to defend the faith. And no offense but i think the verses you cited are out of context. I love...
  12. Nondenom40

    Is There Different Beliefs Among Catholics? Chrislam Movement?

    Sorry for the delay. Basically its he said, she said. I've seen seds destroy post vat 2 catholics because encyclicals prior to vat 2 contradict what vat 2 says. Which is the reason for the split. Kinda like what your pope is doing today and causing no small uproar concerning doctrine or the...
  13. Nondenom40

    Is There Different Beliefs Among Catholics? Chrislam Movement?

    And the sedevacantists say the same about all catholics post vat 2. YOU broke away, not them.
  14. Nondenom40

    Is There Different Beliefs Among Catholics? Chrislam Movement?

    Not to derail the thread but the differences between the rcc and Christianity are far more severe than secondary. Things like; The gospel The Canon Sin Penance Purgatory......and more are all primary issues, not secondary. But yes to answer your question. The rcc will amalgamate any and all that...
  15. Nondenom40

    The Doctrine of Purgatory in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    Ask them. When i go to the reformers its usually to defend them against some nonsense put forth by catholics.
  16. Nondenom40

    The Doctrine of Purgatory in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    Is the canon; 1. An authoritative list of biblical books 2. A list of authoritative biblical books Gods word doesn't become authoritative because your church sat down at trent and voted them in. They are authoritative because they are Gods word. And B.F. Westscott ripped your prelates at trent...
  17. Nondenom40

    The Doctrine of Purgatory in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    This reasoning always astounds me. Why stop at Irenaeus? Why not just go to the apostles? Duh..And if you read Irenaeus you'll know that he didn't have it all together either. Why people go to ecfs over scripture is beyond me. Well, its not. Its because the apostles don't say what you want them...
  18. Nondenom40

    The Doctrine of Purgatory in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    I've never claimed to be a calvinist. I never brought up limited atonement. I responded to your whacked idea that all the earth is redeemed, with scripture. And your response is a rant against calvinism?? Too funny. Instead of hurling insults how about simply addressing the issues? A. You...
  19. Nondenom40

    The Doctrine of Purgatory in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    I'm not conflating anything. The post i made was in response to someone else regarding works. The unsaved cannot do works pleasing to God. The saved are created for good works. And the notion ALL people on the planet are redeemed is a huge flaw in your theology. You can't be bought back AND not...
  20. Nondenom40

    The Doctrine of Purgatory in Catholic Biblical Perspective

    So now Luke 1:28 is referring to sanctification? Youre throwing crap at the wall to see what sticks. And you keep adding to the definition what is not even there. Your posts smack of desperation.