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LOL ...Thanks for the "AI Overview" Walter, however I was wanting your personal overview. It would be nice you hear from YOU and not AI. Sadly, your "AI Overview" is flawed with the usual Protestant deception. It says that the "leaders must guide according to Scripture, and believers should...

Hey Walter, Since your "Church or Leader is ultimately the Bible" what do you make of these passages? Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable...

Okay, so here is your original statement: Isn't it true that everyone including myself have been deceived, if we don't listen to Jesus and the Apostles words and agreement? Now that I have clarification on what you are saying, here is my response: Yes, of course, if we don't listen to Jesus and...

Riiiiight.....JW's don't have councils but you do have a body of elders that supervises each congregation, and those congregations receive periodic visits from traveling elders known as circuit overseers. And your "Bible-based guidance and instructions" are provided by a Governing Body made up...

Huh!!!:confused Your post makes no sense! You allege that Christ was never in The Church and Matt 7:21-23 is your evidence of that? Oh my how your men have lied to you kiddo. In that verse Jesus is saying that he never knew those people because they were not or are not members of His Church...

Hmmmm....Aunty Jane; are you a JW? I think you said you are. Soooooo you have no interest in The Church councils that gave you the bible you quote from? Those councils meant NOTHING to you? But you have interest in the councils of your JW men and those councils mean something to you? That makes...

Lol.....When I saw your post I was trying to figure out what you were talking about. I didn't recall posting that to YOU! I meant to respond to Jane and somehow responded to you! :jest: So, I apologize for the mistake! God bless.....Mary

Hey Jane! We have writings from the men of the early church. Which men of the early church that you have read do you agree with? Also, the early church held the doctrine of the Real Presence in the Eucharist as the Catholic Church still does today. Is that one of the doctrines that "crept"...

Walter, I apologize! I don't understand what you are saying. Could you clarify. It's the "agreement" word in your sentence that is throwing me off.

You have been deceived by the men that you follow.

Hey AJ, You do realize that this is complete and utter non-factual, non-historical non-sense? Don't you? :IDK: Please run (don't walk) away from the false teacher who taught you this. If you have taught yourself this rubbish, I feel bad for you. God Bless.....Mary

Lol AJ....You crack me up. Out of the kindness of my heart I wished you a Happy Thanksgiving not knowing that you are not American. You turn that kind jester into a bizarre rant. :jest: I now see the kind of person you are....and it isn't pretty! God bless........Mary

Hey Walter, Since your "Church or Leader is ultimately the Bible" what do you make of these passages? Obey those who rule over you, and be submissive, for they watch out for your souls, as those who must give account. Let them do so with joy and not with grief, for that would be unprofitable...

Hey AJ, Yes, my post was without fantasy. My post is EXACTLY what was happening in 1st century Christianity AND is still happening today. If you knew Scripture and Christian history, you would know that. Why do you think we have 1,000 different Protestant denominations? Because of exactly...

Hi GG, Unfortunately, most Christians don't realize that historical fact (a year's wages to have a bible) AND the average person couldn't even read which means Scripture was especially true for those living back then; So then faith comes by hearing, and hearing by the word of God. Yes, the...

Jane, Can you really not see how you are talking in circles and opposite of what Scripture teaches? Scripture LITERALLY speaks of and gives examples of Apostolic Succession. For you to deny what is written in Scripture AND the logic of APostolic Succession is amazing. The Apostles LITERALLY...

I presumed you knew that I was referencing Matthew 12:31-32 and Mark 3:29. I shouldn't have presumed that.

YOU are the one who said, "they had been corrupted by the adoption of man-made doctrines," NOW you are saying there are no man made doctrines? :IDK: It is Scripturally based that the bread/wine are His body/blood just like Scripture says and that we must eat his body and drink his blood (john...

Then you are Catholic

Hey, you finally got it right. SOME men led SOME people away from The Church and into false doctrines. That means there was still a church that did not teach false doctrines. Your theory is that the church that continued to teach TRUE doctrine disappeared and not a single church continued to...