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  1. GracePeace

    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    1. Not in any way (it should not be taken in any way) that should cause anyone to be removed from their faith and profession of "Christ alone". 2. In the sense that they're "condemned" (not "justified") according to Ro 14:23.
  2. GracePeace

    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    No, it's Christ alone, and sin (defined in Ro 14:5,23) interrupts that relationship that is always and only a gift.
  3. GracePeace

    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    The question has been as to how to not close my eyes to Scripture (the many things I cited), and, yes, it does seem the correct answer is "Christ alone, not anything of me", at which point you're with Him, which is a good place to be, since "apart from Me, you can do nothing", and the life lived...
  4. GracePeace

    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    To clarify, when Paul says "having BEGUN by the Spirit [Grace and faith], are you now BEING PERFRCTED by the flesh [Law and works of the Law]", but, then, distinguishes the one from the other in... 5But by faith we eagerly await through the Spirit the hope of righteousness. 6For in Christ Jesus...
  5. GracePeace

    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    In other words, they emphasize the justification of Ro 5:1, whereas others, like yourself, emphasize, as I see it, the justification of Ro 14:23 (also Ro 2, etc, etc)--we only need to work to Scripturally bridge the gap, without doing violence to either claim, which, since neither can be wrong...
  6. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    Good job on your English, man!
  7. GracePeace

    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    I think it's like with science having trouble uniting quantum physics and classical physics--we know both have validity, but what we have had difficulty doing has been in uniting them. In the meantime, yeah, it's frustrating talking with people when they seem committed to being dishonest on, or...
  8. GracePeace

    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    I agree with your emphasis on walking in the spirit, not empty assertion of being "in Christ", but I agree with their emphasis on trusting in Christ and what that effects for us in terms of our relationship to God (though I wish they would go all the way, and incorporate the remainder of...
  9. GracePeace

    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    @marks I think taking the approach to the issue that I'm suggesting unifies all of the doctrines on justification in Scripture--James 2, Romans 2, etc, etc, etc--WITHOUT sacrificing Ro 5:1, and without having to offer weird, obviously convoluted and dishonest, readings of texts like James 2...
  10. GracePeace

    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    I don't mind waiting, because it really does require serious thought (quite a few years preceded even the ability to formulate the questions), just don't forget about it! lol
  11. GracePeace

    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    @marks Consider also the manner of Jesus in the Book of John : there is a heavy emphasis on "time" (eg, Jn 2 "it is not my time" versus "it is always your time"). It is always time for the ones producing their own righteousness by the flesh (Ro 8:3 "the Law, weakened through the flesh", Gal 3:3...
  12. GracePeace

    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    I was discussing the issue with @marks, and you decided to involve yourself. If you insist on seeing it as a "nothing burger", you are free to disengage.
  13. GracePeace

    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    Yeah, I'm discussing it with another user. I don't know what this has to do with you. You reject the premise, that's fine, go do something else you prefer to do.
  14. GracePeace

    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    Yep. I've been reading it for many years. Romans 14 5One person regards one day above another, another regards every day alike. Each person must be fully convinced in his own mind. 6He who observes the day, observes it for the Lord, and he who eats, does so for the Lord, for he gives thanks to...
  15. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    We lived in Miami, he got his pilot's license at Tamiami airport (same place as Mohammad Atta), and told my Mom they were going to use the air planes as missiles, and we told the FBI circa 1997. He was literally a terrorist. He would berate and beat us for reasons we did not even know, and, on...
  16. GracePeace

    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    For different reasons, I actually agree with both sides (Episkopos' views and his opponents' views) LOL
  17. GracePeace

    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    Well, "the one who observes a day observes it as unto the Lord" : no, it is, plainly, not merely addressing the issue of food, but addresses the broader issue of faith by various practices (eating, observing a day, etc). "Both" "camps"? What are the "two" positions (not including yours, which...
  18. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    Soberxp speaks Chinese as their native language, so there's a language barrier.
  19. GracePeace

    Only Those Who Do the Will of God Will Enter the Kingdom

    @Soyeong I almost forgot about you No, I should've said it differently : I know what people say about it, but there're lots of arguments about it (as with all things), and I haven't studied all of that.
  20. GracePeace

    Bible Study: The Gospel is in the Torah

    We have different takeaways. Yes, the universal rule for all of life is "each one must be fully convinced in his own mind". Breaking that rule is "sin", and the one who sins "is condemned" (v23). The one who is condemned is not justified. That, together with numerous other verses, created a...