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  1. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    Where is the Holy Spirit in your life? Whom will lead you into all truth? That is what concerns us about you. Who (what) talked you out of the Pre-Trib wisdom? That is what concerns us about you.
  2. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    I did a Google search for Divine Dynasphere, and Google AI gave me the following: AI Overview The "divine dynasphere" is a theological term coined by Pastor R.B. Thieme Jr. to describe a system of spiritual power and the plan for a believer's spiritual maturity, according to the teachings of...
  3. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    It was meant to be. Because.... The Word was made flesh. And, the Word is God. Some people have a history before being saved of enjoying being a contrarian. But, when they carry that trait over into the realm of God's divine dynasphere? They will cease playing games with flesh and blood...
  4. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    His chosen name tells me that he is an agent on assignment. For we wrestle not against flesh and blood.
  5. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    What the heck are you doing in 1 Peter? I cited Philippians! Go here, and see it means citizenship! Philippians 3:20 - Bible Gateway In Christ .....
  6. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot: 1 Peter 1:18-19 'Conversation' in the...
  7. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    You are really determined to swerve us off of the road....
  8. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    There's always somebody in the crowd. You are now on record. You get the prize for nice trize.
  9. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    Part ll. “Let not your heart be troubled; you believe in God, believe also in Me. In My Father’s house are many mansions; if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself; that...
  10. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    Philippians 3:19-21 Their destiny is destruction, their god is their stomach, and their glory is in their shame. Their mind is set on earthly things. But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, who, by the power that enables him to bring...
  11. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    You agree? Before the Church age? Jews were elected for the New Earth kingdom in their resurrection. In the Church age? Christians are elected for Heaven! Not, the New Earth promised the Jews. Today. In the church age, there are no longer Jews and Gentiles. Our home is Heaven, not the...
  12. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    During the age of Israel? ............. Jews were God's elect. During the Church age? ............... Christians (Jews and Gentiles) are now God's elect. Chosen are the people with God's purpose in mind, when choosing them. God castes his 'vote.' Therefore... He elected those He wants...
  13. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    The elect? The gathering of the elect here is gathering the Jewish believers who that this point are in heaven. It refers to the resurrection of the dead born again Jews of the entire Jewish age (pre-Church Age, who were originally in the Earth in "Abraham's bosom", but Christ took them with Him...
  14. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    That is not what the Rapture is. The Rapture takes place in secret above the earth, where we are gathered in the clouds. Christ's return takes place when on earth, he puts an end to the seven-year Tribulation. He then sets up his kingdom on earth, ruling from his throne in Jerusalem for...
  15. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    What is your understanding of the meaning of "the coming of the Lord?" There is so much confusion here, I did not want to jump into what was the equivalent of jumping into a street fight. The coming of the Lord is when the Tribulation ends. It is not the same thing as the Rapture, for the...
  16. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    How can anyone produce a post of substance when they can not understand even the Rapture?
  17. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    Very confused people congregate here. They quote passages which they impose their own understanding upon.
  18. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    I can wait to see their faces when they find themselves raptured.... It will be like the shock of discovering you just won the lottery after a friend bought a ticket for you.
  19. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    If it were not, in large part, for the Catholic Church dumbing down believers, the Rapture would have been understood a long time ago. Truth does not change over time. Ignorance just can not see it when it has always been there.
  20. GeneZ

    Why I don't believe in a pretrib rapture

    Yippeeee! False teaching is making points!!!! So they think.