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Looks like I learned something new today, thank you! People should be open to learning new things and not assume what they think they know is completely correct.

Than you’re not following God’s inspired words in verse 21 if your not allowing your husband to submit to you. 21 submitting to one another in the fear of [f]God.

What about verse 21 right before 22, you know, where it says submit to one another? Just because you would become a wife, it doesn’t mean that verse 21 disappears. It is still there. There were no paragraph breaks when the scriptures were written and verse 21 went with verse 22. Some Bibles...

You’re forgetting the verse right before, the one where it says submit to one another. Do you allow your husband to submit to you?

No one has said that work that is paid is the only worthwhile work.

Yet, another all encompassing statement. Even though Wrangler has me on ignore, I am going to respond to this. My ex- wife and I went through marriage counseling while we’re still married. She stopped going because the counselor seemed to her to be on my side because she was agreeing with me...

It is not a broken ideology. A few extremists causing problems does not mean that the ideology is broken.

I have defended my point of view throughout this thread. You have commented on said defense. I am saying that not all are like yours because you have yet to acknowledge that your marriage is not representative of others or that your marriage will work for all other people. I am not trying to...

That’s good then. It is still your own experience and not representative of all others.

You completely missed the point of my reply to you. I have already said how my marriage will be, you have commented on it. I will give you an example of how we’re doing things now. Even though we do not live together and aren’t married, my fiance and I share finances. We help each other out...

Again, this is you and your marriage. It is not representative of all marriages. You keep doing this, taking your experience and making it for all marriages across the board. Your marriage is not another’s and so on down the line. And no wonder you argued about things, you admitted that when...

For you, it was an idol for you and your family. It doesn’t mean it is an idol for everyone, man or woman. So, you had no autonomy to make your own decisions and not cave to peer pressure. It doesn’t make university bad for all people, it just means it was bad for you. Others have self-control...

This is where your thinking fails, because you’re not thinking it all the way through. A man who is a husband should be helping the wife and sharing in the responsibilities of keeping a home and raising children if he wants to be married. You’re right, if a man allows the woman to do all three...

There is more than that as a possible reason for what’s going on with marriages. I will definitely be helping my fiance when we get married to realize her dreams as she will help me. And you would be wrong for telling them so. If you want to have the marriage that you describe, have it, but...

Okay. So this is your marriage. Your marriage isn't someone else's marriage. Someone else's marriage can work the way I stated. A man should help the woman with her dreams as well. Your dreams do not take a backseat because you are married. A man should be willing and able to help her just as...

Just because you don’t like the “fact” that she posted, doesn’t mean that it is a nonsensical avoidance of responsibility. If anything, this is you trying to silence someone you disagree with.

You do know that having a college education is not a selfish thing? You both should have dreams that are independent of each other and dreams that are for both of you to accomplish together. It is not selfish to have your own wants and needs. Should you serve each other, absolutely, but your...

Exactly!

I am the one who originally said it, so why don't you ask me?

Again, taking one extremist and making it the whole movement. So, I will say again, that patriarchy is also evil and stupid and wrong because of the few who take it to an extreme. What's good for the goose is good for the gander.