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We don’t have a contentious spirit, not in the least. Just because we don’t agree with you, doesn’t make us contentious. We just disagree with you. I am not a feminist. I didn’t even know what it was till I joined Christian forums. I have always been how I have described. I have never changed...

Which is my exact plan, which includes married couples here. You do marriage your way and I will do it mine. I have no issues with that and believe I have said as much throughout this thread.

Yes, and so want to please my future wife more than myself and her me, but she doesn’t need to submit to me for me to feel pleased. That was my opinion. Which can be done without the woman submitting. Again, my opinion based of the thinking that only a woman has to submit.

Obeying God is not childish. I’m not God. I am an adult flawed man. I agree. I have her best interests at heart and she mine. I wouldn’t marry her if she didn’t. Marriage is give and take, by both spouses and it isn’t one-sided. Which is fine, but I don’t have to have final say to be shown...

And that’s fine. I have no issues with that, if that is how you want your marriage to be. I happen to disagree with the interpretation that the woman has to submit and the man doesn’t. I am also not someone that needs submission from my wife. She’s a grown adult woman. If I have to have a woman...

That’s pretty much how my marriage with my fiance will be, but she will not need to submit to me and can consult me about serious choices, but I will not have final say. I trust her to make the decision. If it is wrong, it is wrong. We’ll deal with it and move forward. I won’t make right choices...

Per usual, you have missed the point. No one is denying that poor choices or wrong choices cannot make them unhappy. Men and women are subject to that. To me, what you have implied is that women cannot make choices all together and that men should make all their choices for them.

That goes for men as well.

Exactly!

She’s not agreeing with feminism, but it’s telling that you agree with what essentially amounts to wanting to take choices away from women. You and others like you are why there is feminism! I’m not a feminist, but I believe that women should be equally considered and should have the same...

I can make a video and show that God makes women unhappy, it doesn’t make it real. You have a habit of taking these videos and expanding them to all women that don’t fit your ideal of a woman. Taking choices away from women puts them at the mercy of men. They have their own wants, needs and...

That is our wish too for our marriage.

Seems reasonable and not a feminist way of doing things.

If you asked that before, I didn’t see the question. That is essentially what you seem to be pushing. Everyone should do marriage the way you say it should be done and that is what I call a cookie cutter marriage, every marriage is the same. If that is not what you’re saying, l apologize.

And you would be sorely mistaken to think that men don't have pride or ego. It is not a one-gender issue.

I am not defensive in the least. I want other Christians, who may be like me, to know that there are others like them and that there is no cookie cutter marriage.

If you say so. I have seen the fruits both and I have seen both fail and both work. As I have said, I am not a leader. Not in the least. So, a traditional marriage would not work for me or my future spouse. I am a patient person and can wait till I get to heaven to find out.

You assume much. I am not bothered at all by what you say and I am extremely confident in my style of marriage. I wonder if maybe the image you’re seeing is your own in the mirror that you’re looking at.

And I am standing on what I have said. I guess when we get to heaven, we shall see.

They are personal people that I have seen such as friends and family. There is no way for me to point them out to where you can see them. Having a marriage not based on scripture that works is not a trend of the world. It is doing what is best for a marriage as no two are alike.