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  1. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    Because when we fail to observe Jesus' two Great Commandments and the Golden Rule, bad stuff happens. Don't get me wrong, I am not against capitalism. On a small scale, between mutually consenting, uncoerced individuals, it works very well indeed. The problem is, the modern implementation of...
  2. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    OK, let's tackle sin then. Sin is not an action. Though an act may be sinful. Sin is not a belief, though a belief may be sinful. Sin is not a way of life, though a way of life may be sinful. Sin is a way of being. Let me try to explain what I mean by that, since the concept and distinctions I...
  3. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    There are many messages in the Bible, perhaps as many as there are Christians. So I'm not abandoning the Bible at all. Just trying to explain what the good messages are, and why they are good. Best wishes, 2RM.
  4. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    I have, in fact, read them both. But I try to keep a little perspective, and a pragmatic attitude, and emphasise those parts of the Bible that are useful to us on our pilgrimage through life, and likely to see us in good standing with God on Judgment Day. Abdicating our responsibility to...
  5. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    Can you justify that remark? What makes equality a 'perversion'? Why would it be 'perverted' to attempt to mitigate or ameliorate those social ills that render us physically, mentally, or economically unequal? Do you think, for example, the legless should be denied wheelchairs and prosthetics...
  6. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    Hey, there is room for only one heretic in this movement, and that is me!:) Seriously, though the current Pope, to whom I owe no earthly allegiance whatsoever, strikes me as a thoroughly good chap, doing the best he can for his flock, within the constraints that confine him. I really don't...
  7. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    Thank you for those suggestions. If you read the OP, you will find I said: If we did that, there would be space not only for all humanity, but the rest of God's creation, also. And there would be no climate change. God's Kingdom of Heaven on Earth requires no human leader, or rules about who...
  8. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    Indeed you do. And you do that by considering the evidence for the contention, and against. So what do you have? Best wishes, 2RM
  9. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    Agreed. Sounds suspiciously like a conspiracy theory to me. What is your evidence? They are already locked up, chained as they are to the trappings (sic) of wealth. Our job, our Christian duty, because we love all sinners, rich and poor alike, of whatever faith or none, is to try to set them...
  10. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    No answer yet. Am I to presume you would not give up your life for the rest of us sinners? Because, if you wouldn't, don't try to pretend you know Jesus, or have any notion whatsoever of the extent of His love for us all. Best wishes, 2RM.
  11. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    For everyone else: There appear to be (at least) four main academically credible schools of thought among ethicists: Needless to say, all these approaches have issues, problems and objections associated with them. My own preference, when confronted by a particularly knotty moral conundrum...
  12. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    Ah! I know who you are now! You are wondering, on that other forum. So, you said you wanted to consider each possibilty separately, and decide which were moral and which were not. And I said fine, that's a good start, but how are you going to decide that? And I suggested the next step was to...
  13. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    OK. Here's a moral conundrum for you, I devised to illustrate this point. You are to imagine you are the newly elected President of the United States. Realistically, you can establish only one of three possible major domestic reforms during your 4 year term. You can choose between: 1) banning...
  14. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    I'm sure you are. Seems neither I nor my antagonists do 'nice' very well. The best I can say is, I have some tough things to say, and only radical change to offer, or looming disaster. And inevitably some will feel threatened by that, and would prefer the disaster to the change. Best wishes, 2RM.
  15. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    What use is it to attempt to lead someone to eternal life, if the poor sod dies of hunger before you have finished your proselytising? Give him a livlihood, the proceeds from which he can afford food, shelter, healthcare, etc, and he might even be tempted to think you mean what preach, that he...
  16. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    On the contrary, I am not preaching at all. Just explaining what my reasoning leads me to think, and why I think it. But, if you want to remain 2000 years and more stuck in the past, you are perfectly at liberty to do so. Just don't try to tell me I am not a 'true' or 'proper' or 'honest'...
  17. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    On the contrary, it is not all meaningless. At least to me, even if it is to you. And theology and the philosophy of religion in the Christian tradition, are hardly secular. Furthermore, my position on ethics is not moral relativism. Here is what it is: God is omniscient and omnibenevolent, ie...
  18. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    I have two perfectly good Bibles, one of which is the KJV. When I quote from it, the archaic language should warn people of the invoked authority. But I do not often do so. When I use ordinary, plain language, I offer my own opinions, interpretations and reasoning. They may not suit you, but...
  19. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    What I actually said was: What could possibly be your problem with studying a little about God's world, and how it works? Best wishes, 2RM.
  20. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    Is that my problem, or a fault in the Bible, and therefore, yours? Best wishes, 2RM.