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  1. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    I agree with much of the sentiment you express here. However, coming from an inhabitant of the richest nation on earth, allegedly Christian, with 22 million millionaires, when one third of the world's population lives on $2 per day or less, I wonder if you have quite thought through what Jesus'...
  2. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    I do hope not. God's Kingdom of Heaven on Earth must be entirely voluntary, or it is not God's and it is not Heaven. Rather, I hope we shall learn to use love to encourage, motivate and support, and reason to explain and persuade. If people do not want to love, and/or can't or won't reason...
  3. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    How about the people who lived there before the Jews first arrived, and subsequently, before the State of Israel was founded, after the Second World War? There don't seem to be any title deeds, duly signed by God, only the OT, which you won't or can't corroborate. And the OT, I might remind you...
  4. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    In the sense that the world is God's providence for our sustenance and health and enjoyment, those who do not love His world really are biting the hand that feeds them. And we can, I contend, learn a lot about God through the medium of His world. It really is an awesome creation. But you have to...
  5. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    Actually, I have to correct you on this. God loves us all, whatever our faith, race, nationality, sex, gender or sexuality, for we are all His children. And we are all sinners (even you, my friend). It's just that some of us sin worse than others, and they will get a particularly tough time...
  6. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    The church is for people who know Jesus, and try to keep His great commandments because they love Him: namely, to love God, and love each other. And, I might add, who love God's world, also. I don't see any of that ever changing, and would not want it to. But if you want to encourage people to...
  7. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    What I have is 2000 years of scientific, social, philosophical and theological development since Christ, not least, because of Christ, and considerably more than that since the Bronze Age Jews began writing the OT. It would be foolish to ignore all that, out of preference for a blind belief in a...
  8. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    So, all that stuff in the Bible is true because the Bible claims it is, and because the Bible claims it is true, it is? Surely even you can see that is a viciously circular argument? Which isn't to say your conclusion is wrong, just that it can't be proven that way. Best wishes, 2RM.
  9. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    That is the topic we are discussing, to be sure. You think it is. I think, even if it is, we cannot know that. And I have provided sufficient reasoning to explain why it might not be the case. Best wishes, 2RM.
  10. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    Well given that the Jews thought they were God's chosen people, and they wrote the OT, it's pretty inevitable that that rather quaint notion should find it's way into their books about God, wouldn't you say? Best wishes, 2RM.
  11. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    Interesting. Thank you for your perspective. Best wishes, 2RM.
  12. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    So, were you a Jew? And do you think God punishes Jews just for being Jews? Best wishes, 2RM
  13. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    Oh, here we go with the prejudice. Satan must be laughing. My religion is God created. All the others are flawed human attempts at best, and the road to Hell at worst. Best wishes, 2RM.
  14. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    How do you know who gets saved? Are you God? Have you ever been a Jew, a Muslim, a Buddhist, or a Hindu? If not, how would you know if and how they might come to the Father? Are you dead yet, and have you found Heaven to be solely populated by Christians? One thing we can be quite sure of; it is...
  15. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    Apart from the very rich and powerful, who are somewhat insulated from the realities faced by the rest of us, I think we all do. It's one the reasons we get out of bed in the morning, to make the world a better, fairer, happier, healthier place, for us, our children, and theirs. Problem is, we...
  16. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    Ha Ha! Thanks for that. Now, what was the point you wanted to make? Best wishes, 2RM.
  17. 2ndRateMind

    'God working' question

    Hmmm. Sorry it has taken me so long to get back to you. I had to visit the doctor, and it turns out I am not at all well, and they put me in hospital. So. My model of the construction of the scriptures goes something like this. God inspires. Maybe the clerics, who interpret that inspiration...
  18. 2ndRateMind

    21st Century Christianity - A brief manifesto for our age.

    On another forum, I lamented that Christianity was being left behind, and as it is currently consituted, stood to collapse into irrelevance and obscurity, with none but a few dinosaur conservatives left muttering to each other in corners about how evil the world is. So, I proclaimed, the 21st...
  19. 2ndRateMind

    'God working' question

    But, even bishops are human (allegedly)! And, as the Archbishop Desmond Tutu pointed out, the opposite of faith is not doubt. It is certainty. But to be fair to the good bishop, I thnk he was just trying to explain some of what sustained him in his faith. Best wishes, 2RM.
  20. 2ndRateMind

    'God working' question

    OK. I have already started to discuss this, when I said that both Heaven and Hell are being in the presence of God. The difference being, our attitude to that. The good, of course, will find themselves vindicated. The evil will have a tough row to hoe. God, in my experience, is no pushover...