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    When did Jesus receive the Revelation scroll/book?

    I am limiting my responses to the timing of the vision of Jesus receiving the scroll. In my opinion, incorrect assumptions about Rev 4 and 5 have veiled our understanding about the timing of the events in the scroll for 2000 years.
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    When did Jesus receive the Revelation scroll/book?

    The point of the timing of Jesus being given the Revelation scroll is that it is not given to Jesus after the church age or even after the letters to the churches in the first century. It was given to Jesus when He ascended into heaven. This contradicts how most people view Rev 4:1 "After this...
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    When did Jesus receive the Revelation scroll/book?

    Excellent! "When he ascended and left those that watched a cloud receive Him." Does everyone understand this?
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    When did Jesus receive the Revelation scroll/book?

    The vision I referenced portrayed the time Jesus received the scroll. It seems to me that the only time Jesus would not have everything that the Father had was when Jesus was on earth. If that is true, then Jesus receives the scroll from the Father the moment he ascends into heaven. Are there...
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    When did Jesus receive the Revelation scroll/book?

    Jesus apparently did not have the Revelation while he was on earth. Mark 13:32 "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father."
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    Eze 38 and 39 - When

    I view Dan 11:40-43 as the time of the 6th trumpet, the 200 million cavalry marching from the Euphrates River through Israel and Egypt. When the forces reach Jerusalem, they will take away the twice daily lamb sacrifice and set up the abomination of desolation, beginning the 3.5 year period of...
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    When did Jesus receive the Revelation scroll/book?

    Rev 1:1 "The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him..." Rev 5:1-7 1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals. 2 And I saw a strong angel proclaiming with a loud voice, Who is worthy to open the...
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    Why Israel Will Never sign a 7 year peace treaty

    As I understand it, Israel was to be punished for 70 years due to it not fully turning to God. After the 70 years, they still didn't turn to God, so the punishment was multiplied 7 times or 490 more years. The last period of 7 years is their final period of punishment. A "House of God" was...
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    The Last Plague

    Thank you. I have been on here before, but it has been awhile. Dan 12:1 "At that time" has to refer to something in Dan 11 to make sense to a reader. I equate Dan 11:40-45 with the 200 million cavalry of Rev 9, the 6th trumpet. When this army takes Jerusalem, the 3.5 year great trib begins...
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    The Last Plague

    Since you mentioned the 7 years and the antichrist, this is the yellow column in the chart. A new Roman Empire will come into existence through some sort of treaty. It's first leader will likely be from Rome but will not be the antichrist. It's second leader, the king of the north from the...
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    The Last Plague

    The last plague is the far-right column in the chart below. Please see WTEW Bible Studies on YouTube for a complete explanation. The 7th bowl is the most complete description of the plague that ends God's wrath, and it is repeated 6 times in the Revelation. Revelation 15:1 "And I saw another...
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    Chart of Revelation's 6 stories

    Reasons to believe sin and death will occur in the millennium: As I already quoted in 1 Cor 15, Jesus must reign on earth until his last enemy (death) is defeated. Jesus reigns for 1000 years on earth, not 1 day. Healing will exist even in the NHNE which is not for immortals. Rev 22:2 "In the...
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    After the Devil is Cast Out

    2600 years of historical confirmation goes back to about 600 BC, when King Nebuchadnezzar, the conqueror, through war, and with famine, and pestilence resulting from war (the 4 horsemen), ruled the whole earth. He had authority to put to death 100% of the population. Absolute authority lasted...
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    After the Devil is Cast Out

    Where did you learn that the 7th trumpet sounds for 7 days? Isn't Satan ruling 3.5 days after the 7th trumpet starts to sound in direct contradiction to Rev 11:15? "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms...
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    After the Devil is Cast Out

    Rev 8:13 "And I beheld, and heard an angel flying through the midst of heaven, saying with a loud voice, Woe, woe, woe, to the inhabiters of the earth by reason of the other voices of the trumpet of the three angels, which are yet to sound!" Rev 12:12 "Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that...
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    Chart of Revelation's 6 stories

    Rev 20:11-15 "11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book...
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    Chart of Revelation's 6 stories

    What happens to the people who belong to Jesus at the end the Jesus' 1000 year reign on earth? What happens to the people who belong to Jesus who die during Jesus' 1000 year reign on earth?
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    After the Devil is Cast Out

    Compare stories 3 and 4, especially Rev 8:13 and Rev 12:12. Woe comes to the inhabitors of the earth because Satan has been cast to earth. There are 3 woes. The first woe is the 5th trumpet, the second woe is the 6th trumpet, and the third woe is the 7th trumpet. The 6th trumpet includes the 3.5...
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    Chart of Revelation's 6 stories

    I do not believe in a pre-trib rapture. I do believe in a first fruits resurrection/rapture of the 2 witnesses at the end Daniel's 70th week. I believe the full harvest of the resurrection/rapture will occur at the time of the last plague. I also believe that there will be a...
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    After the Devil is Cast Out

    How can you have a first woe if Satan has not been cast out? Don't the 3 woes come upon the inhabitants of the earth specifically because Satan has been cast from heaven to earth? See post 232.