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Uh huh. Because some of it is clearly not false, as I have already pointed out. (Post #66). Best wishes, 2RM.

I make no secret of that, because I do not believe the Bible to be, as you put it, infallible and inerrant. Just a very old set of documents some of which are clearly obsolete. Why do you think I am at all interested, then, in trying to reconcile my own beliefs with those of ancient scribes...

And Jesus is quite correct, for most people, most of the time. But He still has nothing to say on the topic of homosexuals. I think you are reading into His words about the nature of marriage more than He actually said. Best wishes, 2RM.

So far as I understand the theology, Christians have a new covenant and are not bound by the strictures of the OT. As for the Gospels, it seems Jesus was silent on the matter. If homosexuality is an issue, let alone a sin, we might have expected some comment from Him. But there is nothing. Thus...

Absolutely I do. And I see nothing wrong in that. God gave us minds, and the capacity to discriminate between the true and the false. We must assume He intended for us to use them both. Best wishes, 2RM.

dupe.

Oh I see. It's my fault you can't find the arguments to justify your position. How predictable. . I am interested in what is true, and if some passage in the Bible doesn't measure up, it gets rejected. I commend this strategy to you. All that is necessary is for you to find the guts to think...

It absolutely has. In Biblical times, the Jews had yet to define what reason is, what an argument is, and how logic works. They 'reasoned' in couplets, and metaphors*. It was not until the dark ages that the scholastic clerics (with a little help from the ancient Greek philosopher Aristotle)...

The difference between us is that if you provide a valid, sound argument, I will change my point of view. I sense no such willingness in you. Best wishes, 2RM.

Fair question. I'll answer your question if you answer mine. My answer is that I believe the broad historical narrative of the Bible, as corroborated by archeology, and the ethically 'good' parts of the Bible, mainly to be found in the Gospels. Now, given the fact that much of the OT was...

Hmmm. Science is as good as the evidence and reasoning it is based on. Neither more nor less. The Bible, on the other hand, doesn't use evidence, or reason, just unsupported assertion, myth, and opinion. Where they differ, I prefer my knowledge justified by evidence and reasoning. And you still...

There are none so blind as those who will not see! Best wishes, 2RM.

How do you know? Are you God? Man made rubbish? My attitude is quite different than this. We live in a science-heavy world, (and science works, which is all the proof of it I need) and all science must have first been invented by God, before it could be implemented in the creation. So...

Precisely. So our sexualities are innate, which implies genetic predisposition. Best wishes, 2RM.

How do you know? Are you God? Man made rubbish? My attitude is quite different than this. We live in a science-heavy world, (and it works, which is all the proof of science I need) and all science must have first been invented by God, before it could be implemented in the creation. So science...

I'm not entirely sure I agree. I find I am sexually attracted to beautiful women a lot, and handsome men not at all. It could have been the other way round, but it isn't. 'Twin' studies by scientists show considerable consistency in sexuality among monozygotic (identical) twins, rather less so...

Speaking as an unabashed liberal, I just don't understand what part of liberalism conservatives don't get. Indeed, one can make a good case for God being a liberal, seeing as how He allows us the freedom to do as we please, provided only that if we do wrong we should be prepared to accept the...

As I recall, the Christian folklore saying is: 'Hate the sin, but love the sinner.' It's a position I find perfectly reasonable, allowing us both to discriminate between good and evil, but still, as Jesus commanded us, to love our enemies. All that is necessary is to distinguish between what...

Hmmm. When the Holy Spirit invaded my heart with God's love for the world and it's inhabitants, at no point was homosexuality a consideration in that process. So where, I wonder, do you get the idea that homosexuality is an issue at all, let alone a sin? Socrates: So God (as the Holy Spirit)...

Socrates: How do you know homosexuality is a sin? Are you God? Welby: Because it says so in the Bible! And the Bible is the word of God! Socrates: How do you know the Bible is the word of God? Welby: Because the Bible says the Bible is the word of God! Socrates: Can you spot the circular flaw in...