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Yet all the good works we do in the future in no way pays for the sins of the past .. nor has our nature changed one iota if we have not obeyed the gospel. Is or is not God creating men in His own image? Is He divine or is He not? "… the servant of all" on this earth, yes. He will not be a...

Right on! I would prefer "receive" Christ to "accept." I see it a Him accepting us. :) I'm looking lately at that SBC Faith and Message 2000. I am really concerned that their salvation section IV saves no one. Have you looked at it? skypair

I find this pattern: Isa 53:10 -- "..his [Christ] life an offering for sin, he will see his offspring [us] and prolong his days, and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand [through us]." In other words, we do have to cooperate with God/Christ in order for His will to be done. He...

So he says "never received in vain ... never fails" and then says "notionally received or received in word only." Aren't you tired of the double-speak? Do you understand the problem? The problem is that "grace" is the gospel and it CAN be received in vain - notionally received but its...

Sure, and the difference that Jesus never sinned and we have. Our divine nature is received (1Pet 1:4) and His was not. But can you see that, if we are to receive His divine nature, then we have to somehow deal with our sin guilt and sin nature (our thoughts and our ways)? We cannot be like...

And grace is with wisdom of God and, specifically here, the gospel of Jesus Christ. So don't receive the gospel in vain. That is, don't receive it and just forget that you are a sinner in need of a Savior through repentance/reconciliation. You know, some folks just have this idea that they...

Sure, but it is a command .. there is an understood "(You) escape…" or as my KJV says, "Save yourselves from this…" In this case (2:40) it means to be baptized in water converting to Christian from Jew. But baptism (the baptism of repentance) is a figure of something you did spiritually. You...

Exactly! The Reform/Calvinist tradition is to bring people into the church who simply believe in Christ — they "have an name that lives but are dead." (Rev 3:1) That is "establishment orthodoxy" in most churches. They don't care that, if Jesus isn't in their church (boat), they aren't saved...

OK, I guess another scripture or two need to be in play here. How about 2Cor 6:1-2? "We then as workers together with Him, beseech you also, that you receive not the grace of God [the gospel] in vain. (For He says, 'I have heard thee ina time accepted, and in the day of salvation have I...

So, no. But does it not occur to you that what you are saying resembles Greek deity rather than the biblical God? Did my illustrations not highlight the problem? So let's talk about the Bible teachings of free will, ability to respond to the gospel, ability to influence our own fate. I'm all...

Some GENTILES in Corinth actually heard from the Sadducees in Jerusalem? Who knows where the mind will go when it relies on human wisdom? C'mon people .. The entire issue from 15:5-40 is, if Jesus was resurrected from the dead, then we must be resurrected spiritually, too. If not, we are of...

That is VERY problematic, IMO. First off, which theologists are you going to believe and which not? The only reliable source for interpreting the Bible is the Bible which is the mind of Christ, the Holy Spirit. And what comes of that is that the "Word is made flesh" in YOU as it was in Christ...

This is going to be fun! :) I agree, In context, Jesus was claiming to be God. But He was also deflecting their accusation of heresy by saying that, indeed, they were gods, too. And He was revealing the truth. “I said, ‘You are “gods”; you are all sons of the Most High.’ We are also God's...

Yes, and grace is the knowledge of the gospel of Jesus Christ which, if we believe, we must also apply to our lives in order to be saved. And, of course, the gospel is free and unmerited by us who are all sinners. No. The "works" spoken of in scripture as unavailing are works of the flesh and...

Yes, very good .. and when we repent and are saved, we are "raised up [our souls] and seated in heavenly place in Christ Jesus," right? Jn 17:21-23 says that by being saved, we are one with the Father and the Son who are in heaven on their throne. And in 1Cor 15:36-40 we find this same thing...

Not necessarily. Did not David and Jesus, Himself say, "Ye are gods?" What did they mean? We are free moral agents like God. We decide what our moral code is and who we consider to be gods over us. So even without Christ, we are "gods." So the one essence of Father, Son, and Comforter is...

That certainly is a different reading that my own. Why does he protest their rejoicing? Why does he call them "fools" when he knows that fools aren't saved, Psa 14:1. Or this: Mt 5:22 -- "...whosoever shall say, 'Thou fool' shall be in danger of hell fire." What I see is that they hadn't...

Now, if you want to fantasize something that the Bible says, fantasize this: Our saved soul is already "seated in heavenly places in Christ Jesus." When we are saved, we are one essence (Holy Spirit) with the Father and the Son (Jn 17:21-23). Even Jesus, while He walked the earth .. His soul...

So what about obeying the gospel? In other words, those in 1Cor 15 believed the gospel (15:1-4) but Paul said that they "believed in vain." He said, "I protest your rejoicing … Be not deceived … Awake to righteousness" and then called them "Fools…" (15:31, 33-34, 36) What do you think he was...

So bottom line, all I need to do to be saved is believe the gospel of Jesus Christ, right? skypair