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Yep, who is Jesus to you? Its a simple question really.

So who is Jesus supposed to be to you?

And the thing is, people don't realize that Paul actually defines what an angel is. Contrary to popular assumption, they aren't an entirely different species or kind than us, only a higher form of us. This is why they are called Sons of God just like Adam was a son of God. They aren't like some...

Ok, where exactly? If you are in contention with what is plainly stated, then you have to prove your interpretation to be at all legitimate by citing it.

101G, the O.P of this thread is chief among them. He has been quite fervent of his promotion of this fraudulent atonement of Jesus.

Well, like I said, it claims that Jesus is equal to the Father, in authority and power, because he is the Father. So when the apostles clearly state that Jesus sits on the right hand of his Father, the diversified oneness cult claims that this is in fact NOT the case. They are essentially...

The lunacy of diversified oneness. :confused: The word is God Almighty speaking, so how they can possibly interpret that as "a God" is beyond me. This is what happens when you get people trying to understand the technical details of how the Godhead works. At some point somethings gotta give...

"Thus, all things were created for Christ"....where is that in the Bible?

"And without him was no thing made that was made"........You can try and save face and call it "co-creator", fact is he had a role in the creation. Just like he stands before God as our intercessor, his role as mediator with the creation account is made crystal clear by the apostles, and reveals...

uh huh, sure.

Sigh......the apostles are not saying there were two creators. God Almighty created all things through his son, the spoken "word of God". When God Almighty says "let there be" in the creation account, it means that he spoke the world into existence, and that spoken word is Jesus. The apostles...

:rolleyes:.....Who is the creator of all things DNB? I shouldn't even have to point this out to you, his place in the Godhead as the "word", as well versed in the Bible as you pretended to be all this time.

I've been very clear about the eternal being of Jesus as the "word of God" from my first few posts. Link: The doctrine of the trinity, it's origins Him being the spoken word of God does not make him equal in power with God. This is why John calls him the "Word of God" in the God head and calls...

By first born, Paul meant the first to rise from the dead a new creature. He isn't saying he was the first creature to actually be born, in earth or elsewhere, because he always has existed as "the word", who was with God from time immemorial, and its by him, the spoken word that all things were...

Convoluted doctrines like "diversified oneness" in particular could affect the atonement since it casts doubt on whether or not Jesus actually died since it is claimed that he is the same person referred to as "Father".

Its akin to the old accusations about the alleged pagan origins of Jesus himself and Christianity as a whole, the "copycat" theory that was commonly known by the word "Zeitgeist". All of it was proven to be false, and it turned out that it was actually the pagan religions that stole from...

Ok well, put it this way, John states that Jesus was God in essence as his spoken "word", not the Father himself as a person. When the Father speaks, the spoken "word" moves as an instrument of his will. This is why it is stated that by Jesus all things were made and its because of him, the...

Your "diversified oneness" is a failure, and here is where it fails, it claims Jesus is equal with this father by putting him on that throne.

To be a "Son of God", you have to meet one of the following criteria: 1. Be a direct creation of God like Adam and the angels. 2. Be an adopted Son of God through Jesus Christ. Since no human on earth living in the days of Noah up until the atonement of Jesus met this criteria, then the...

Like I said, time always tells the truth in the end. When combating false beliefs, it becomes your best companion. For those believing they will be snatched up in the sky on the Day of the Lord, time will show them otherwise, giving them a rude awakening, to give an example. People will believe...