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I didn't say that Christ is the ONLY morning star! There are other morning stars, but only ONE morning star, which is how Lucifer is defined, singular, not plural in this context. Job 38:7 (KJV) When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? The morning...

You're making another assumption here! Where does Scripture tell us angels were created with freewill? In this chapter of Hebrews we see the angels of God are not created with freewill! They are ALL ministering spirits sent to minister to heirs of salvation. Hebrews 1:7 (KJV) And of the...

You seem to sincerely desire to understand the Word of God, and that is a noble desire that I would encourage you to continue with. The reason I ask you specific questions is because you first made an assumption that Lucifer is Satan, and then you looked to the Bible to prove what you assume...

Once again you give nothing but opinion! I understand why, because you cannot biblically show how I have not spoken truth. I'm not interested in your opinions! If you cannot use Scripture to support your opinions, why do you try to participate in Bible forums you appear to have little...

Why does God tell us that Christ is the Lamb slain from before the foundation of the world, if He did not know, and provide a way for them to escape both sin and death through sin? Of course this was the plan of God before creation, knowing man created with complete autonomy would NEVER choose...

What is the spirit within fallen man that must be born again of the Spirit of God? Is it not natural, of the earth, replicating the spirit of this world? It certainly is NOT the Spirit of truth the world cannot receive! 1 Corinthians 2:12 (KJV) Now we have received, not the spirit of the...

If you want me to pay attention to what you have to say, you'll have to biblically answer these questions. Lucifer means 'the morning star'. Christ is the 'morning star'. Can you biblically prove Satan called the morning star (Lucifer) is ever identified as being the root and offspring of...

How were they convicted of their sin since they were not created with knowledge of good or evil? Their heart convicted them because they knew they had been deceived by the serpent (Satan/darkness). But this too is according to the will of God! If God did not desire that A&E come to understand...

You don't believe the greatest evil one might conceive of is the crucifixion of Christ? Yet this evil, ordained by God brought salvation with eternal life to whosoever among mankind would believe on Him. But you don't believe God used this evil to bring about good for His people? IMO you lack...

Isa 14 is a proverb against the king of Babylon. And Eze 28 is unto the king of Tyrus. Because both of these kings had turned away from God, believing themselves to be greater than God. Neither of these are directed to the so-called fallen angel Satan. These are directed to MAN, and not to...

In the Greek language we discover the word translated darkness, the very darkness that God spoke His light into is defined: חֹשֶׁךְ chôshek, kho-shek' - from H2821; the dark; hence (literally) darkness; figuratively, misery, destruction, death, ignorance, sorrow, wickedness:—dark(-ness)...

You are the heretic and a deceiver, continuing to promote doctrinal error through pride and arrogance!

Where in Scripture do we find this fall of Satan and his demons? Christ informs us that the devil was a murderer and liar from the beginning. At the beginning of creation in the garden, through deception by the serpent the words of Christ are proven true. John 8:44 (KJV) Ye are of your father...

Well Okay then!

Again, is this really something you don't know?

Hebrews 1:7 (KJV) And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. Hebrews 1:13-14 (KJV) But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool? Are they not all ministering spirits, sent...

You're assuming Isaiah 14:13 & Gen 6:2 is speaking of angels of God created good but fallen, but you have not proven they do! I assume you haven't read the abundance of posts in this thread, because it has been shown why neither of these passages speak of fallen angels.

You seem to be saying you ASSUME angels were created with freewill, but you cannot biblically prove that opinion! Mankind was originally created with freewill; they had the ability to obey God or listen to the serpent and disobey God. We all know what they freely chose. From that moment after...

What verses from Scripture prove that angels of God are created with freewill? Hebrews 1:7 (KJV) And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire. Hebrews 1:13-14 (KJV) But to which of the angels said he at any time, Sit on my right hand, until I...

While I agree that A&E had no knowledge of good and evil until after they ate of the forbidden tree. But I also agree with TS AFTER the fall because he has clearly shown how the spirit of evil is since the fall within fallen mankind who do the deeds through the spirit of their father. It's...