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    The sons of God

    You don't explicitly say, but it sounds like you believe "sons of God" in these verses are spirits called angels? If that is what you believe can you make a biblical case for why you believe that since throughout the Bible we find 'son' or 'children' of God is reference to faithful saints...
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    The sons of God

    This is not the manner in which one disagrees on doctrine. You've just made it personal! Because I don't blindly follow anyone! If in your opinion TS puts out nonsense you should be able to disprove what he says with the Word of God and not by attacking the character of another Christian! It...
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    The sons of God

    Thank you for the kind words regarding our daughter.
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    The sons of God

    We have to remember he has a bias to maintain! Even if this bias makes him look foolish, he refuses to let it go!
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    The sons of God

    Hello TS, thanks for responding. We're doing well, back in Az now. Had to go home for short time, family crisis. Our daughter contracted mrsa staph infection that severely infected her leg, to save her life the leg had to be amputated. But now she and we are doing ok. I apologize for not...
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    The sons of God

    It is not Christ preaching the gospel to spirits in prison. After the Spirit within Christ ascended to the Father after He physically died, being spiritually alive, Christ sent His Spirit to be within believers, through whom, believers, faithfully preach to spirits in prison, those who are...
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    The sons of God

    The KJV is NOT a bad translation, several reputable translations say the same thing. I'm not in the habit of translation hopping to find a translation to fit my opinion. Isaiah 45:7 (KJV16) I forme the light, and create darkenesse: I make peace, and create euill: I the Lord do all these...
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    The sons of God

    Isaiah 45:7 (KJV) I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. TS how would you explain this verse? I agree a spirit of man becomes like our father the devil before we are indwelt with the Holy Spirit of Christ. But what is the...
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    The sons of God

    Exactly what I believe also. Is the preaching of the gospel for the physically dead or for the spiritually dead who are physically alive? Would you not agree the spirits of man in unbelief are in bondage (prison) to sin and death before being made alive (quickened) by the Spirit sent from...
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    The sons of God

    The view that fallen angels of God procreated with women of flesh & blood originates from the belief that Satan was an angel of God before becoming Satan. In fact, it is believed by a vast majority of Christian churches that Satan was created the highest-ranking angel of God before in pride he...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    You've been pleading for me to address the OP. I've done that! Your reply, more insults and laughter, like a small petulant child who has been caught telling lies! I could quote others and in fact have shown in this thread a rather long commentary, but like always you ignore anything that...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Prove them and all you who rely on them to be right through the Word of God! Through these last now 44 pages you have not been able to prove what you allege because you are relying on what sayeth man rather than on what sayeth God.
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    "It seems correct" is a very poor way to arrive at biblical truths. Once again unless you can prove what seems correct to you from the Word of God, what "seems correct" to you remains your unproven opinion.
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    How can the stars be symbolic of angels who sided with Satan and fell after reading them belonging to the crown upon the woman's head of twelve stars? Is this not reference to Joseph's dream that the sun, moon, and eleven stars made obeisance to him? Are the stars not symbolically the nation...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Here again, the translators through bias believing Satan to be a fallen angel of God write angels when the correct translation is messengers, who were human beings not fallen spirit angels of God, not even demon spirits. But humans who were to be ambassadors of God, like righteous Noah, who...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Exodus 12:29 (KJV) And it came to pass, that at midnight the LORD smote all the firstborn in the land of Egypt, from the firstborn of Pharaoh that sat on his throne unto the firstborn of the captive that was in the dungeon; and all the firstborn of cattle. Was it the LORD, who smote the...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    This, from the OP is the lie that has been perpetuated throughout the church from the start and now also has been perpetuated throughout these 43 pages. No, I agree Satan is not a physical being but is an invisible demon spirit from the beginning. He has never been an angel of God, that are...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Man, not Satan fell from the high position God created them to be, and through sin brought death and depravity unto ALL HUMANITY! Satan, never having been the highest angel of God who fell from this high position through pride and arrogance, is EXACTLY who and what he has always been from the...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Is Satan or was he ever called anointed cherub? How was the serpent in the paradise of God? Revelation 2:7 (KJV) He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Debating you and SI on this subject is like debating immature children, professing to be Christians, lacking ALL understanding of the difference between angels of God and Satan!