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Read post 80. If you would have read post 9 and 80 already you wouldn’t have to ask this question. I will give you an added bonus for being such a good player. I’m assuming you accept the Bible as Gods word and THE ONLY SOURCE OF PROOF. that is what I believe. So what does Gods word of proof...

One other thing... What am I supposed to deal with in the passages on your avatar?

Where does faith come from? Rom 10:17. I doubt you will read that one either. You seem to be like many of the others. All talk with no Bible behind it.

You didn’t read. Doesn’t surprise me. You don’t care. I never said....I could not prove it. I’m saying you can’t, because of the doctrine you hold to. I can point to everything you said above, and through Gods word, prove what you say above. Now, if the Bible is not Gods word and cannot be...

All you need to do is read post 9 and post 84. Then come back to me with your attitude. You seem to be just like all the rest. “I’m one of the elect”, “I know it”, “and you can’t question it”. “I don’t have to prove anything”. Do you know who else had a “prove it” mentality? The apostle Paul...

I have gone back through most of these reply’s and nobody is mentioning anything about the church. We cannot have a talk about election and not talk about the church. Here’s why... The church was a part of the eternal purpose of God before he even created the world. Ephesians 3:9-11 And to...

you just said...”none are elected because of any type of merit on their part”. I have asked you before and I’ll ask you again. Even though you have yet to answer any of my questions. Are you one of the “elect”? And what did you do to become one of the “elect”. How did you get to be one? Did...

What a crazy thing to say. Now we know why there are 100 different churches maybe more in the area I live in. I can do anything, put Christ’s name in there somewhere, and nobody can question it. Paul said... Prove ALL things, hold fast to that which is good. That is a command. This a...

We can prove today who are the elect. I believe one can be sure of their salvation. I believe one can know if they are one of the elect or not. Only the elect are entered into the race. You have to enter the race before you can run. The point of this thread is to help clear up this idea of...

Well I’m glad you agree.

Are you “in Christ”? If so what did you do to get there? God doesn’t just PUT people “in Christ”. Obedience is required. Are the elect in 1 Peter chapter 1 people who.... Met all the conditions listed in post 9? Feel free to respond to that post and break down where Peter was wrong when he...

Ok. Good

9:24. Even us. Whom he hath called not of the Jews only but also the gentiles. How does God “call” a person today? Through the gospel... 2 Thessalonians 2:13-14 But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to...

Yes and it’s shinning right over that bridge.

He doesn’t try very hard.

Just run. I ask you a simple question and you don’t care. You are a “Christian”? A true Christian would want to get to the truth and not dodge. A true Christian would have an open and receptive heart. A true Christian would be like a berean Acts 17:11. They were considered noble because...

This was true in the first century, but the problem now....2000 years after the jewish system was destroyed is there is not one person living today that can trace there heritage back to a tribe of Israel. So, nobody even knows who “they” are. Just because you are born in the present country...

Are you going to answer or just dodge like everyone else? Make no mistake...this is not a “Christian” forum. I have found very few “Christians” on here. I am in the process of demonstrating that right now with you, mainly because you are seemingly dodging a very important question about the...

You think it’s awesome that people are teaching that God elects just certain people for no good reason. Just because he wants to. Totally awesome doctrine man, man.

Can you tell me what the Ephesians did in order to be converted? You spout information from a letter that was not written to you, don’t you think you might need a little background information? I don’t have a problem with the term elect. I have a problem with what people do with it.