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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    Do you believe before Christ came the spirit (breath of life) in them returned to God after the body died? Why does Christ after His coming speak of death as it was before He came, speaking the parable of the rich man and Lazarus, where He says only the rich man went into the grave, but Lazarus...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    The way the mind of mankind was made to function is through the breath of life (spirit) breathed into him. It took both the body + God's breath of life (spirit) for mankind to become a "living soul." When the body dies, without the Spirit of God to continue to give it life, yes there is only a...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    The Bible containing the word of Christ must appear a fantastic work of fiction to you! The fact that man who has been born again HAS eternal life through the Spirit of Christ in us, is not what I say it's what Christ has promised! If this eternal life is not found in the spirit of man, where...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    I agree! How was man the likeness and image of God? We know it is not through his body of clay because God is Spirit. What part of man was made the likeness and image of God if not through the Spirit breath of life that God breathed into them?
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    Daniel 7 - 10 horns....

    Pardon the interruption of the discussion between yourself and TS. It's been very informative. I hope you won't mind me asking you one question, When you say the plan of the Messiah was to "restore His people and His city back to the way it was prior to the Babylonian destruction" do you...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    I believe the breath of God breathed into man comes through spirit - which is defined: from G4154; a current of air, i.e. breath (blast) or a breeze; by analogy or figuratively, a spirit, i.e. (human) the rational soul, (by implication) vital principle, mental disposition, etc., or (superhuman)...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    Nowhere does Scripture teach, nor do I, that man is an "Eternal Immortal Soul"! Man was created with eternal life through the Spirit of God in them. That eternal life together with our body of dust became a LIVING SOUL and was not ordained to die until they disobeyed God and brought sin and...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    Animals have not the immortal breath of God breathed in them, they are alive through natural breath that every living creature, including mankind is born with since the fall. You added [living souls] but only mankind with body and God's breath (Spirit) breathed into them became living souls...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    What God at creation gave to man was ETERNAL spiritual life by breathing Himself into them, that together with body created from dust of the earth became "living souls." The body of dust was not of itself eternal or immortal! But man could have lived forever IF they had not disobeyed God...
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    The only source of life and the fallacy of a 'dead' human spirit being 'quickened from death'

    I don't believe Moses was as dumb as a rock! I believe he wrote as he was motivated through the power of God. It isn't religious nonsense to understand whom our breath of life originates from. Man was not created to die! They chose death over life because they were given a free choice to...
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    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    It doesn't surprise me that you see only a bodily resurrection in the prophecies of Old, because you deny eternal security. To understand we possess eternal life through the Spirit of Christ within us the moment we are born again is to understand whosoever has been born again is eternally...
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    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    I agree not all the OT prophecies have been physically fulfilled. Rather they are being fulfilled spiritually. However much of what the prophets foretell have come when the promised Messiah came and have been/are being spiritually fulfilled. Look for example at Is 25:6 ¶ And in this...
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    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    I believe the Old Testament prophecies began to come to pass when Christ, the promised Messiah came to earth a man, and that these prophecies have been and are on-going spiritually speaking from the first advent of Christ until they culminate with the second coming of Christ. But none of the...
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    A recent session I had with Chatgpt pertaining to some of the Discourse

    The people that destroy the city and sanctuary are apostate Pharisees and Jews in unbelief. Christ, Messiah the prince is the prince of the people (apostate Jews) that destroyed the city and sanctuary through spiritual adultery, fornication and overspreading of abominations that made it...
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    All things written may be fulfilled

    You're right, I did not make myself clear, and it did seem as thou I was changing my view. It is not that I changed my view, I simply was not clearly stating which laws Christian Jews remained zealous for and which they understood to be anathema unto God. It seemed apparent to me, but it was...
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    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    Only the mortal body of believers dies when we breathe our last! Our spirit alive after our body breathes its last returns to God ALIVE, living souls the spiritual body of Christ in heaven who are as the angels in heaven spirit without physical form.
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    A recent session I had with Chatgpt pertaining to some of the Discourse

    The prophesy of Daniel was fulfilled with the advent of Christ's crucifixion and resurrection. In Acts 13:45-46 trouble arose from the Jews who presided not in Jerusalem but in Antioch in Pisidia, not a city of Judaea. The Apostles departed from Jerusalem and began their missionary journeys 50...
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    All things written may be fulfilled

    Reply #236 answers your question.
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    A recent session I had with Chatgpt pertaining to some of the Discourse

    Luke 21:20-22 (KJV) And when ye shall see Jerusalem compassed with armies, then know that the desolation thereof is nigh. Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto...