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    Churches weigh in on actual belief in creation and Genesis

    When I was in a Catholic school they taught about Adam and Eve and the garden etc. From what I have heard from so many Christians and Catholics in the last number of years either all or most of them no longer believe in Genesis as real and creation etc. I consider that to be apostasy myself...
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    Evidence for the Genesis Flood

    We do not know what the waters from below or above carried with them. If, for example some materials like nitrogen were brought up, maybe it would act like a giant snow making machine. So the idea it would have to be super hot seems lame. Apparently they think that the interior of earth could...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Where do you think we should place the 1000 years of His rule? Patmos? Galilee? Caesar? The USA? Yes it is to a large extent, there are a sequence of events that follow each other. Some passages span times. Chapter 12 also talks about a sign that was seen in heaven. That tells us it is not on...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    No death or sin for the saved. In the 1000 year rule of Christ, apparently not all the people are saved. Some people still die, like the guy who dies at 100 years old. Some people still try to rebel. Etc No more death for the saved believers who have new bodies like His. We help Him rule. We...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Nice try but no. Satan is loosed after the 1000 years. The Great Tribulation was before the return of Christ and start of the 1000 years. Immediately after the tribulation we are told, Jesus returns.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The beast is alive at the end of the 1000 years says the bible. Rev 20:7 7 And when the thousand years are expired.. 10 And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    OK So far so good No, people still die in the millennium. They just live a long time. Believers don't die any more then of course. He ends death for us. No. The world is the same world for 1000 years, clearly. The wicked are removed when He returns, they are destroyed. However they will...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Yet he is still there as are the beast and false prophets at the end of the thousand years. Your claims that they were destroyed are false. Your vacuous grudge against the coming time after Jesus returns is noted.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    There is no rule of Satan after Jesus returns. Don't pretend it is 'my' idea
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The post Rapture saints. We are outta here. Same thing, because the tribulation involves the wrath of God Yes the world is going to go through the tribulation. It is in that time. Why quibble for nothing?
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    That is not rule so much as insanity and a hopeless puny effort.
  12. dad

    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    No. It refers to people coming to faith after the Rapture in the tribulation
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Hi. Yes, just as the verse says. Is there something new in your catching the drift on that? Why mention it then? Except I never mentioned your goat nonsense at all.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Of course not. It is the end of his rule on earth for sure though!
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The verse itself says it. The end is after we are raised and after His coming. 1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    The end is not our end, we have no end. The end refers to the end of the kingdoms and rule of this world. We know when Jesus rules here and does all that. It is after He returns. The passage says every man in his own order will be raised, and Jesus was the first. After that, when we all are...
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    Context. Scripture tells us it comes after He returns. We know all rule will be put down then. We know this is also after we are raised to the Father. There is nothing mysterious about the passage and nothing that opposes Mt 24. On the contrary.
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    When did the 2nd temple literally initially cease being the holy place?

    1 Corinthians 15:23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. 1 Corinthians 15:24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all...
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    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    OK, thanks Looking at the beliefs it seems they got many things pretty straight.
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    What are some of the reasons people don’t like going to church buildings or institutionalized churches?

    OK so am I supposed to google protestant holy ghost churches? Which one? Still no clarity or honesty and I can see why you fear posting what your favourite or home church is. But, for the sake of lurkers I may take a gander at those churches and see what you were holding up as so great. Would...