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  1. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Thanks. 1 Corinthians 3: 13. Every man's work shall be made manifest: for the day shall declare it, because it shall be revealed by fire; and the fire shall try every man's work of what sort it is. Matthew 7: 24. Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of Mine, and doeth them, I will liken...
  2. Fred J

    Bible Study For Our Times

    Definitely not the same meaning, did he do this modification on purpose to start a war? Or is it just a mistake in translation that led to war? Thanks
  3. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Can you please quote the scripture that speaks about the 'fire', thank you?
  4. Fred J

    JOHN 3:1 ISRAEL MUST BE BORN AGAIN

    Did you do the study of what happened to the Jewish disciples of Jesus, even Paul? 12 of them ended up being martyred in Gentile nations, except John, thus fulfilling the commission given by Jesus. So don't be left behind claiming they were for the Jews, but catch up, for they've moved on to...
  5. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    'Let GOD be true, but every man a liar'; as it is written,
  6. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Therefore 'water baptism' is vital for salvation 1 Peter 3: 21. The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward GOD,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ. i believe the 'fire' he's speaking...
  7. Fred J

    JOHN 3:1 ISRAEL MUST BE BORN AGAIN

    Gentiles too are included, since scripturally is written, 'there's neither Jews or Gentiles.'
  8. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Apparently yes, but people who truly believed tend to forget they're wet, for they'll be rejoicing.
  9. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Not watered but rather going into the water.
  10. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    This is not water baptism, but a 'metaphor' of sowing the seed of the Kingdom and watering more knowledge of the Kingdom.
  11. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Can you please show us by the Law of Moses 'water baptism' was a Jewish ritual in the Old Testament? Jesus did not baptize because He was proclaiming the Gospel, yet His disciples with Him did the baptism.
  12. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Do you not read the context of what Paul said, or just part to prove your point? How about the one He said in context, yet he baptized Crispus, Gaius and the household of Stephanas?
  13. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Seriously? What about, 'baptizing them in the name of the FATHER, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost'? In the book of Acts, as they are Apostles now, they do water baptize people, even Paul to few of his fellow servants.
  14. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    That's very sweet, am sorry if i was a bit straightforward in clarifying things. GodsGrace, it is indeed the 'natural water baptism', for GOD never change nor HIS every word that proceeded out of HIS mouth. We're not serving an apologetic GOD that HE makes mistakes and corrects them later. By...
  15. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Correcting and insulting are two different thing, so hold your horses while you can. The one who lie is a liar, and correcting that person is not wrong, so that in future that person will be wise. Proverbs 27: 5. Open rebuke is better than secret love. 6. Faithful are the wounds of a friend...
  16. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    "Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the Kingdom of GOD." In other words Jesus is saying, in order to enter into the Kingdom of GOD a man must be born of water and of the Spirit. Is Jesus referring to the natural water birth in...
  17. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    If you and him having something going on in whatever manner, keep it to yourselves. He's answering your post and you're answering his', in what manner is that right ganging up on someone? JohnDB said repeatedly, my replies here in testimony is coming from the 'pulpit' sermons of the church...
  18. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Please read my reply to Behold since you 'like' his reply, thank you.
  19. Fred J

    WHAT IS THE WATER IN JOHN 3:5?

    Instead of putting a 'spin' on things, where is the scripture to support your version, that Jesus was water baptized to fulfill the law?? Or in other words, where in the Law is written about water baptism in the river Jordon like the New Testament?? 'Water baptism' in part is the fulfillment...
  20. Fred J

    JOHN 3:1 ISRAEL MUST BE BORN AGAIN

    To 'see' the Kingdom of GOD in Heaven, not Davidic kingdom on earth which is history. Now Christ reigns over the born again new house of Jacob and for ever. Which includes the born again remnant of Jews saved by grace from the house of Jacob. And likewise includes, born again Gentile...