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  1. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    According to the scripture in Revelation and 'quote', when did the 'first resurrection' take place?
  2. Fred J

    Jesus Chooses Us

    This is Bible Study Forum and the Holy Bible conflicts with the doctrine and believe of the Monergists who's truly not born again. How can the spirit of truth and the spirit of error have anything in common, even able to correspond without an argument? Possible, but both will be going around...
  3. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    The church in the beginning need not, since they had with them the Apostles chosen by Christ, and Peter as the 'rock'. Again, 'they' in the scripture is referring to the Apostles in one accord 'continued' in the Temple, as did their Master Jesus from the beginning. Only Peter and John as...
  4. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    When did 'they' observe 'circumcision' in the New Testament , even Paul 'refuted' the Galatian Gentile church forbidding them. Just because one incident Paul circumcised Timothy and have explained why, you in 'fallacy' want to speculate they and the church 'observed' circumcision?? What has...
  5. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Again, in the Temple they did meet in one accord, to blend in like common Jews, just to get an opportunity to minister unto them the Gospel. Apparently, they are imitating their Master Jesus, where in the beginning He and them as disciples in one accord continued in the Temple. And there's...
  6. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Friend, hopes can be hopes but that's not reality or according to the truth. Because the disciples fought over who's going to sit at the right and left hand of Jesus. Even to one of their mother requested Jesus that her sons should be given these seats.. The reality is only GOD decides on...
  7. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Yes, you can like angels worship GOD day and night. i believe there's no outside of the city helping in Heaven and alone services to GOD for eternity. And worship doesn't mean it's all about singing to GOD in Heaven, probably there'll be also other form of services to GOD. Shalom in the name...
  8. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    i believe after death is destroyed and satan is cast into the lake of fire, then the 'final judgement' takes place. The 'first resurrection' indeed is referring to the 'rapture' taken into Heaven, and not the spiritual rebirth in Christ. Spiritual resurrection from the dead in sin and alive...
  9. Fred J

    Jesus Chooses Us

    am a born again from above and 'seen' the Kingdom of GOD. am too born of water and of the Holy Ghost, and 'entered' the Kingdom of GOD. am furthermore discipled in the All Scripture = Holy Bible (2Timothy3:16&17) am called to be a 'hearer' and 'doer', and 'abider' in the teaching of Christ in...
  10. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Now, you're referring to the 'final judgement', the 'resurrection' onto 'life' or 'damnation', and have not 'perceived'. The church which is left behind from the 'first resurrection', within the thousand years eventually live, die and buried until the 'second resurrection'. For this is the...
  11. Fred J

    Revelation 20: 5&6

    Disagree. My point is, the scripture need not read, 'this the first resurrection' but rather 'this is the resurrection'. Next it reads, 'And the dead shall not rise again until the thousand years is up'. Meaning, there's a 'second resurrection' after the thousand years, and i would want to...
  12. Fred J

    Revelation 20: the thousand years

    satan was 'cast out' from Heaven with his angels to earth and still in action to deceive the inhabitants on earth. (Revelation 12:9) This verse got nothing related to satan's sentence coz he's still in action coming for the Lord. satan is judge but not yet sentenced to the bottomless pit...
  13. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You're adding to the scripture 'Levitical priesthood' and 'worshiped in the Temple'. Are all the Apostles 'Levi' and ordained to serve in the Temple? When moreover there's already 'Levi' priests and high priest serving in the Temple 'daily'. Why to you 'they met in one accord' cannot mean...
  14. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Yes, he's the 'rock' on whom Christ built His church until today, so scripturally and doctrine wise what Peter have approved, is also approved in Heaven. By the way, not the saint Peter's basilica man made building founded on Peter's tomb is Christ's church. But rather all true born again into...
  15. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Meantime he too kept the Law for the sake of the unsaved Jews since being stationed within Israel, especially Jerusalem. Moreover Peter have a 'fresh' start after Christ, now ministering to the Gentiles, and at first unsure of the Gentile's standing with Christ.
  16. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Apparently the 'conflict' is in you lacking of wisdom from above, unable to piece together the scripture and their doctrine in context. In the manner of 'circumcision' done to Timothy, coz junior was a travel companion for Paul who minister to Jews as well. And scripturally we know how the...
  17. Fred J

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    In the past yes, they needed to pray in the Temple, where GOD was present in the Most Holy Place. But since when Christ died on the Cross that day, the Temple curtain torn into two where GOD's dwelling no longer there. Since GOD's dwelling according to HIS New Covenant is in all born again...
  18. Fred J

    WHY JESUS AND THE TWELVE APOSTLES DID NOT PREACH THE CROSS

    This is very 'funny', in a humble way, well done Davy, and no harm done to 'Doug', just a gentle annoying correction. 'Doug' please find another profession, how about from a not so doing well 'butcher' to a 'fishmonger'? That relates better for the calling of making you. 'fisher of men', but...
  19. Fred J

    WHY JESUS AND THE TWELVE APOSTLES DID NOT PREACH THE CROSS

    In the Gospel the 'cross' is Roman's invention and where they crucify criminals. It's a public affair done openly and gruesomely by the Romans as an example and warning to others. What's the point preaching about a wooden cross where criminals are nailed and hung in punishment by the Romans...
  20. Fred J

    Revelation 20: the thousand years

    Can you please give the Bible verse to this different viewpoint? Thank you