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  1. TrevorHL

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Greetings again WPM, I woke up this Saturday morning in Australia and was willing to disengage with this thread as I considered I had stated sufficiently on this subject, but I found that I had replies from four members and other posts in between that denigrated my position. After a busy...
  2. TrevorHL

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Greetings again Scott Downey, rwb, WPM and Spiritual Israelite, I suggest that we would have a different opinion on the new heavens and earth and the events on other side of this event. I suggest that Acts 3:19-21 is simple and clear and needs no further explanation, as it speaks for itself...
  3. TrevorHL

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Greetings again Scott Downey, Actually this is one of my favourite passages in support of the Pre-millennial view: Acts 3:19–21 (KJV): 19 Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord; 20 And he...
  4. TrevorHL

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Greetings again Scott Downey, As I have previously stated, I disagree with this perspective. It does not match the detail of Isaiah 2:1-4 and other OT prophecies. How much of the three latest posts are from ChatGPT or similar. I am not interested in conversing with AI. Is this your latest toy...
  5. TrevorHL

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Greetings again WPM and Scott Downey, It certainly appears to have come up with the wrong answers as stated in your posts. I was interested in part of wiki's assessment: Despite its acclaim, the chatbot has been criticized for its limitations and potential for unethical use. It can generate...
  6. TrevorHL

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Greetings Scott Downey, No, I believe that this is speaking about educating the nations in the period of time between Armageddon and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God on earth for the 1000 years, when Jesus will sit upon the Temple Throne of David in Jerusalem. Kind regards Trevor
  7. TrevorHL

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Greetings again WPM, Isaiah 2:4 (KJV): 4 And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. Kind regards...
  8. TrevorHL

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Greetings again WPM, I have commented on the simple, clear words of Isaiah 2:1-4 and as such it is not simply my opinion. The words of Isaiah 2:1-4 are their own clear testimony and this clearly teaches premillenialism. Pure, simple premillenialism, alive and well.. Kind regards Trevor
  9. TrevorHL

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Greetings again WPM, Yes, I have presented a simple, clear explanation of Isaiah 2:1-4. I was also amused at your unusual treatment of Daniel 2, another clear evidence that teaches premillenialism. Pure, simple premillenialism, alive and well. Kind regards Trevor
  10. TrevorHL

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Greetings again WPM, I appreciate your exposition, but I continue to hold to the view that Isaiah 2:1-4 speaks of a specific future time of transition between the return of Christ and the full establishment of the Kingdom of God upon the earth for the 1000 years. Pure, simple premillenialism...
  11. TrevorHL

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Greetings again WPM and rwb, I have considered this subject over many years, and yes this is clearly taught in my environment, but I am careful in deciding what I accept. I was interested in your exposition of "the last days", but I do not see that what you have stated has any real bearing on...
  12. TrevorHL

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Greetings rwb, I appreciate your opinion but strongly disagree. I accept the detail revealed in Isaiah 2:1-4. As well as many other prophecies, Zechariah 14 also reveals much detail and these two prophecies are like bookends to all the OT prophecies concerning the future Kingdom of God upon the...
  13. TrevorHL

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Greetings Scott Downey and Greetings again WPM, I am conscious of the New Heaven and New Earth mentioned in Isaiah 65:17-25. I do not know exactly what you are stating in your Post, and exactly how this relates to Isaiah 2:1-4. I am not able to decipher how you understand Isaiah 2:1-4 and its...
  14. TrevorHL

    It is time to give Pretrib a decent burial

    Greetings WPM, I decided to read the first page of this extremely long running thread, but as there are 113 pages I hesitated of trying to find a definitive answer to my main Scriptural support of the various verses that I consider teach the Millennium and that there will be tribulation before...
  15. TrevorHL

    How do we understand Luke 23:39-43

    Greetings Ben Avraham, No. Jesus' Kingdom will be realised when Jesus returns to sit upon the Throne of David in Jerusalem. No. Both Jesus and the thief were dead on that very day. Jesus was placed in the tomb. Jesus died as our representative, not as our substitute. Our sins are forgiven...
  16. TrevorHL

    Is the New World Translation a valid version of the Bible?

    Greetings again HealthyShape, Perhaps one day we could discuss each of your favourite verses that you use to support the Trinity. Over the years I have developed some thorough responses to some of these verses, and if I saw a list like yours I would not answer all of your list, but select the...
  17. TrevorHL

    Is the New World Translation a valid version of the Bible?

    Greetings again HealthyShape, My plain reading of my OT and NT foundation texts make perfect sense. I am not interested in turning this thread into a Trinitarian vs Unitarian discussion. Kind regards Trevor
  18. TrevorHL

    Is the New World Translation a valid version of the Bible?

    Greetings again PS95, I appreciate your response. I came back to adjust my mention of "25 years" to 21 years. I was able to keep a copy of Elpis' thread on the Yahweh Name. I can access this Forum's site with my old tablet, but the Forum's use of advertisements locks up my old computer and...
  19. TrevorHL

    Is the New World Translation a valid version of the Bible?

    Greetings again PS95 and Greetings HealthyShape, I cannot specifically recall what we discussed. I joined Carm over 25 years ago when there was a long running thread by Elpis that eventually ran into 143 thorough meaningful posts on both sides on the subject of The Christadelphian Understanding...
  20. TrevorHL

    Is the New World Translation a valid version of the Bible?

    Greetings PS95, Yes, and I like the perspective taught in my fellowship. Perhaps you have not considered the theme of the Yahweh Name as advocated in my fellowship. I have a brief introductory thread on that subject. https://www.christianityboard.com/threads/the-yahweh-name.64181/ I do not...