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    What is Mystery Babylon?

    The rite of the Lord's supper was given to "show the Lord's death till He come" - a symbol of the literal body and blood of the Lord being sacrificed. Just as Mystery Babylon was a symbol, "showing" to the servants of Christ the approaching fate of the literal city of Jerusalem who had slain...
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    What is Mystery Babylon?

    If the interpreting angel took the time in Rev. 17:8 to explain and define just who Mystery Babylon was, then we are obligated to go by that definition. The angel was not attempting to "fool" us by defining Mystery Babylon as a literal city. He meant exactly what he said. We are not permitted...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Of course this miracle took place in AD 33. And the persecution of the disciples by the Jewish religious leadership started some 50 days afterward. Satan wasted no time in starting a war against the early church. Scripture says that the very day Stephen was stoned to death, a great...
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    What is Mystery Babylon?

    Babylon is defined by the angel as being a literal city in Revelation 17:18. Satan and his angels are not a city. Therefore, Satan and his angels are not Mystery Babylon.
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    What is Mystery Babylon?

    All of mankind without exception is responsible, each for their own sins, but not all of mankind committed the particular sin of betraying and murdering the Savior in AD 33. The blood guilt for that particular crime fell on only that single generation of adult Jews and the children of their...
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    What is Mystery Babylon?

    "His blood be on us and our children" didn't mean the same thing as "His blood be on us and all our future descendants for all time". Luther, I believe, was of the opinion that this self-imposed blood-guilt curse extended to all time for the Jews, but this kind of thinking can lead to a...
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    What is Mystery Babylon?

    The responsibility of "believe or perish" actually extends to everyone who hears the gospel. I should probably emphasize that I do NOT see that blood guilt of killing Christ being imposed on every future generation of anyone calling themselves a Jew. It was only those Jewish leaders in...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    But TS, I agree with this statement of yours above. That's my point. The physical bodies of the 144,000 First-fruits (Matt. 27:52-53) coming to life again in their glorified, incorruptible bodies was a sign and an example of what we all as believers can expect for ourselves as part of our...
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    What is Mystery Babylon?

    Christ was the representative of all those who were "IN Christ". If someone kills the ambassador of a country, they have committed an offense against the entire country which that ambassador represented. It was the same with the Jews in Jerusalem who the martyr Stephen called "the betrayers...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The "First-fruits" was not composed of every bodily-resurrected saint. It was only the first group of saints to be raised in a glorified, incorruptible body in the "First resurrection" bodily "harvest" of the dead saints in AD 33. While it is true that all believers share together in the...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    No, they aren't. Not all believers are called "First-fruits". This was an Israelite agricultural term referring to a harvest, and there were three harvest seasons in Israel. Scripture quite often refers to the resurrection of the bodies of the saints out of the ground as a "harvest". Such as...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    That isn't what John wrote. The 144,000 are the First-fruits (Rev. 14:4). This is an Israelite harvest term for the First bodily resurrection event (Christ and the Matthew 27:52-53 resurrected saints) to be followed by the next bodily resurrection at Christ's coming. The four living...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Sorry, but that's impossible. Those in Revelation 5:9-10 singing that new song were said to be the 4 living creatures and the 24 elders, taken out of every kindred, people, tongue and nation. The number of 144,000 found in Rev. 7 & 14 was not equal to 24 elders. Those 24 elders were never...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Rella, I'm sure you remember the "elect" which were said to be crying day and night for vengeance for their shed blood. Christ said in Luke 18:7-8 that God would avenge his elect "speedily", which happened in that first-century generation before it had passed. That was the "days of vengeance"...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    I never wrote that the 144,000 First-fruits were resurrected at the Cross. These 144,000 First-fruits Matthew 27:52-53 saints came out of their graves AFTER Christ's resurrection, on that same day that He arose. The resurrected Christ resurrected them all out of their broken-open graves around...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Nobody except the RESURRECTED saints were taken away with Christ back to heaven at His bodily return on AD 70's Pentecost day. Those believers who had never died yet before that point stayed on earth to keep building the kingdom of God. That was the whole reason why Christ warned His disciples...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    No, it was eye-witnesses in besieged Jerusalem, most of whom died in the city in the weeks immediately after seeing that AD 70 Pentecost day return of Christ. The few 97,000 or so in Jerusalem who survived to the end of AD 70 were made prisoner and scattered among the nations of the Roman...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Some of the ethnic Israelites in the besieged city of Jerusalem repented when seeing Christ's AD 70 bodily return to the Mount of Olives. Some didn't repent. But they were all in great mourning because they missed participating in the bodily resurrection and transport to heaven of the...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Oh, of course, I have no doubt that many of those inside Jerusalem who saw Christ's bodily return in AD 70 repented for the wrong they had done. That would have been the reason for the great weeping, as if for the death of an only son, that Zechariah 12:11 said the tribes of Israel would be...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    There were to be no Christian believer witnesses to the return of Christ, since they had obediently fled Judea and Jerusalem, just as Christ had told them to do when they saw Jerusalem surrounded by armies (Luke 21:20-21). The witnesses of Christ's return to the Mount of Olives were those...