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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    A Preterist understanding of scripture's content does not change the scriptures - it acknowledges the time-relevant terms that scripture contains, and the language of imminence indicating Christ's bodily return to that first-century generation before it had passed away. Just as Peter wrote in 1...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    Scripture in Leviticus 23:9-17 refers to the grain offerings of barley and wheat as "First-fruits". The sheaf handful of barley grain offered at Passover was called the "First-fruits", and the Pentecost offering 50 days later of two loaves baked with leaven was also called the "First-fruits" of...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Josephus did not write anything about the day of Christ's AD 70 return to the Mount of Olives. When he mentioned the signs that were prevalent in Jerusalem and Judea just before the AD 66-70 war commenced, (the comet, the great light around the altar at night, the heifer giving birth to a lamb...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    You have a misunderstanding of who the "rapture" was supposed to include. Because of this misunderstanding, you think that an AD 70 "rapture" with a returning Christ would have removed both the living believers and the dead saints from this world, leaving it without any Christian witness at...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    I'm not certain why you would think the origins and legitimacy of the historical church post-AD 70 would be in question, if Christ bodily returned in that first-century generation as He promised. The progress of the "rock" kingdom of Christ was going to be inevitable in this world. It would...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Christ's role as the anointed Great high priest King over His kingdom was inaugurated on His resurrection-day ascension to the Father. I believe we both agree on this, yes? The "change in the law" mentioned in Hebrews 7:12 was launched with the New Covenant change in the high priesthood, with...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The Matthew 27:52-53 saints resurrected from their graves on the same day that "Christ the First-fruits" arose were meant to be the fulfillment of the OT First-fruits wave sheaf offering of barley grain back in Leviticus 23:9-12. That sheaf of First-fruits barley grain was to be offered in the...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    You are presuming that Christ "coming IN His kingdom" is the same thing as Christ coming "into" His kingdom with an inauguration of that kingdom. It's not the same thing at all. When Matthew 16:27-28 speaks of Christ "coming IN His kingdom", that means Christ comes while still being IN His...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    That is incorrect. The Matthew 16:27-28 verses specifically mention Christ coming in the glory of His Father with the holy angels, when He would give rewards to everyone according to what they had done. Some of those people of Israel which Christ was speaking to at that time would not die...
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    The 144,000 before God at the end.

    The 144,000 are called "the Firstfruits" in Rev. 14:4. Christ was also called the "First-fruits" in 1 Cor. 15:20 & 23 after He had risen from the dead physically. That means both "Christ the First-fruits" and the 144,000 First-fruits shared the same title because they shared the same First...
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    Lucifer AKA Satan

    Of course, Jesus was talking about the Revelation 12 description of Satan and his devils being kicked out of heaven after the war with Michael and his angels. But that war in heaven with Satan's eviction was an event future to the time Jesus said "I beheld Satan as lightning fall from...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    How did Christ return in the glory of His Father with all the holy angels and give out rewards to everyone according to their works at His crucifixion and resurrection following? (whether AD 30 or AD 33) At this coming of Christ in glory with all the holy angels, He would sit on the throne of...
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    Please describe yourself, regarding eschatology

    I believe scripture's record of a past, Preterist fulfillment of the following:' Rev. 20's millennium 1 Thess. 4 "rapture" of the resurrected saints who had died up until AD 70 Christ's bodily return at the second coming, with a GWT judgment The first and second bodily resurrection events in AD...
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    Lucifer AKA Satan

    Satan falling from heaven like lightning happened in real time at Christ's resurrection-day ascension to the Father, when this "accuser of the brethren" was cast out of heaven down to earth. Christ was prophesying to His disciples of this coming event when He said "I beheld Satan as lightning...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    There is no need to debate the meaning of "genea", when we have Christ speaking clearly about who would see Him returning in the glory of His Father, and with the holy angels, to give rewards according to every man's works. He said in Matthew 16:27-28 that some of those He was directly speaking...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    I totally agree with this. The wickedness of humanity actually exceeds that which the Devil and the demonic realm used to exercise, since we sin against God's grace extended to the human race. God never took up the cause of the celestial angels by extending redemption to those who had fallen...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Rella, the consensus is wrong on a post-AD70 writing of the Johannine epistles. The beloved disciple (Lazarus / John Eleazar) wrote them all, and he said in 1 John 2:17-18 that "The world is passing away, and the lust thereof...Little children, IT IS THE LAST HOUR: and as ye have heard that...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    MatthewG, the "spiritual wickedness in high places" is an indication that scripture was speaking of God's celestial angelic order of created beings. "The host of the high ones that are on high" in Isaiah 24:21 was speaking of the evil celestial angels which had fallen who were going to be...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    My intelligence or lack thereof is not the focal point. It is the texts themselves which were very plain to those who were reading or hearing them in the first century. John's commission in Revelation was to show unto God's servants in his own generation the things which were shortly to come...
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    Does Satan run the world? Or does God?

    Christ's bodily return in AD 70 was to gather and bring all the bodily-resurrected saints back with Him to heaven. Everyone who had died up until then who was a child of God was included in that rapture, from Creation forward until AD 70. Some of them had already been resurrected, and had been...