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*** I already have posted them in the OP.

*** Thanks for your reply. In fact all of mankind were Gentiles including Abraham. The Jewish race began when God made a covenant with Abraham based on a promised child. If people do not read the actual words spoken in the scriptures they can twist them to suit their theology. But to say...

Jesus said: John 10:16 16 And other sheep “””I have””” which are not of this fold; them also I must bring, and they will hear My voice; and there will be one flock and one shepherd. NKJV It is a common belief that the other sheep are those that are saved under grace; today’s gospel. But the...

Isn't interpreting where they twist scriptures to mean what they want it to mean so that it supports their theology???? Two of the most overlooked words in Paul's writings are BUT and NOW.

*** Deception. You are on the threads saying a person has to keep commandments. In doing so you leave the impression that you keep commandments. Show me where Jesus abolished all but the moral law. Jesus never abolished any of the laws.

Am I really supposed to place my trust (faith) in a Religious organization's leadership and wisdom? Where I spend eternity depends upon where I place my faith (trust). . . . . . . . . . . Which one should I choose???? . . . . . . . . . . I will choose none of them. John 5:39 40 39 You...

*** So does yours. Since you think you are perfect and are not s sinner like everyone else and are keeping the law (Jesus' commandments) then you don't need the shed blood to pay for your sins since you don't think you have any. Gal 3:21-22 21 Is the law then against the promises of God...

*** And all of this is based on what Jesus said to the Jews who were under the law of Moses.. Jesus, by His own words, said He only came to the """LOST SHEEP OF THE HOUSE OF ISRAEL"". But you say He came to all and the church should do as He says. Looks to me like you are saying Jesus lied.

*** Since you believe those under grace become Jews I don't think we will ever agree on anything. My efforts to show that the religious theology based on Jesus teachings under the law, James teaching under he law and the religious trying to get everyone under the law is based on the ideas that...

*** I never said that God respects persons. Under grace all men are on a level playing field. All mankind can chose to believe in their religions or in what Jesus did on the cross. You have chosen the theology of the religious based on lies. Feel sorry for yourself.

*** No we are not. The promises were made to the Jews only. If you knew anything about grafting you would know that what is grafted in does not become like the original plant it is grafted into. It only feeds off the root of the original plant. Check it out!!!

*** Where is understanding??? If Jesus did not lie (and He didn't) If James did not lie in James 1:1, (and he didn't). Paul did not lie when he said his gospel was hidden in God (and he did not lie). Since all the above is true then it is the theology of the religious church that lies...

*** Show me your reply that said Jesus, James and Paul DID NOT LIE. In order to keep a theology based on what Jesus said to the Jews under the law, what James said about obeying the law, and saying Paul preached the same as they did, you have to mix it all together and ignore anything that...

How can a message of God's grace that says all of the sins of the world were paid for on the cross be a loophole??? You either believe it, have faith in it, have confidence in it, or you don't. If a person does not believe it then their sins are not paid for. Salvation is the work that...

It is such a shame that people can not actually say Jesus, James and Paul did not lie because of the effect it will have on their Christian theology. Main stream theology has all that Jesus said, James said, and Paul said mixed up together as being said to those under grace but to do so they...

*** You said "So you don't believe they were treating Jesus as God at this point?So you don't believe they were treating Jesus as God at this point?"" Why did you say that???> I never said that so I won't waste my time trying to refute it. What is supported by scriptures is that the believing...

*** If a person can not say that Jesus, James, and Paul said the truth in their writings then they are saying they lied. I see you quoted what Paul said. Do you also say Paul lied when he said his gospel was hidden in God and revealed to him????? You go all around the subject of the thread...

*** The Jews who believed were those that accepted Jesus as their Messiah and King. They never said anything about God's grace based on Jesus' work on the cross. If you read Acts 21:20 you will see that the believing Jews were still zealous of the law and thought that they were still under...

*** So you are saying that Jesus lied when He said He only came to the lost sheep of the house of Israel, and James lied when he said James 1:1 and Paul lied when he said his gospel was hidden in God. Since you try to rationalize what they said you are saying they lied.

*** Jesus said that a rich man and a poor man died and went to hell. One to a hot place and one to a safe place. Jesus told the one on the cross with Him that TODAY you will be with me in paradise. So Jesus and the other went to the section in hell that was a paradise. When Jesus left...