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    Rapture ... soon?

    Good, the point I continue to argue is the belief the Bible tells us that Satan is NOT, and never has been a spirit messenger (angel) of God, who rebelled against God and became an evil spirit messenger with a myriad of titles that define his evil character. When one has a proper understanding...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    The judgment is future, but the place of the DEAD was then and now. Before the advent of Christ the Old Covenant people believed the grave was divided, one part being the common grave where all the dead in unbelief go. That is where the rich man was carried by the angels after he died. The...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    The sons of God are human not spirit. When the sons of God present themselves before the LORD it is as Christians since Christ also present themselves before the LORD. Where three or more are gathered together in the name of God evil messengers are also there.
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Scott, I find nowhere in Scripture where mortal hybrids of angels and women existed. In fact the Bible seems to indicate that angels (spirit messengers of God) do not procreate. Mark 12:25 (KJV) For when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    What about the parable of Lazarus and the rich man? The eternal fire was created for Satan and his messengers, both spirit and human messengers.
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    I agree! Satan, called serpent in the beginning is and always has been the father of lies and murderer. The lie was not of them dying, it was in they would become as God. A&E would deceived into believing they could be their own gods, and be in control of their own destiny. They chose...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    NO! I agree with the Word of God! Angels are messengers of good, and Satan is a messenger of evil, who is a liar and murderer from the beginning of creation.
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    These Old Testament humans were, like Noah to be messengers of God. But they gave themselves over to sin, and chose the things of the world rather than God. Noah alone was righteous before God. So these human messengers of God are kept in the deepest, darkness abyss to be reserved for...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    The Bible is not explicitly clear on the origins for when the spirits, both angels and demonic came into existence. We have only this: Exodus 20:11 (KJV) For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    They cannot rebut truth which is why they seldom address what is actually said. However I do notice today that WPM has at least tried to make an argument against the truths presented. I've replied with rebuttals to them from the Word, I will wait to see whether my replies will be received...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Which is one problem with translations. The Greek word angelos would have caused less confusion and forcing contradiction into the Word of God if it had simply been translated 'messenger' as found in The Concordant Version of Holy Scripture. CV - For if God spares not sinning messengers, but...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Scott, if Satan is a fallen angel why is it said speaking of him: John 8:44 (KJV) Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    All of mankind until they are born again of the Spirit of Christ in them is spiritually speaking of the spirit of Satan, or of the Spirit of Christ. All man walk according to the spirit (mind/heart/will/emotions) that is in them. If the spirit of evil, we are of our father the Devil, if the...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    NO! Devils are evil invisible spirits, they are NOT angels! I find it extraordinary that one as learned as you cannot distinguish between evil spirits of Satan, and angels spirits of God both of which are MESSENGERS. And equally extraordinary that you could believe that Satan, who was, is and...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    2 Peter 2:4 (KJV) For if God spared not the angels that sinned, but cast them down to hell, and delivered them into chains of darkness, to be reserved unto judgment; These angels are those human messengers of God from Old, who lived in the days of Noah and the flood. This is NOT speaking of...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    Of course, I don't believe Satan was once an angel of God until he rebelled against God! Why would I believe something that forces contradiction and confusion into the Word of God?
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    With this statement you are not being truthful, but dishonest if you are directing this to me: "a real Satan, who they deny exists."
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    It appears we agree in something! Matthew 22:29-32 (KJV) Jesus answered and said unto them, Ye do err, not knowing the scriptures, nor the power of God. For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the angels of God in heaven. But as touching the...
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    Satan and his demons are real beings/entities (with personalities) not abstract evil within unregenerate man

    The parable/lamentations are speaking of those to whom the prophet was to address. They are NOT allusions to Satan, rather they speak truth of how the hearts and minds of man have become evil continually, because like the serpent in the garden tested A&E and they succumbed to the same...