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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    So I made a list of things that are foundational things that need corrected here. To avoid a novel, I'll strive to keep it super short, just stating LDS Christian beliefs. If you want me to go in depth, quotation, etc on any point just ask. - Men and women are saved through Jesus Christ, and...
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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    I'd greatly perfer to go in depth to one of the many points I have already addressed with you and get a response. This constant topic-jumping doesn't remotely go there. I'd also greartly perfer to focus on the most important topic (Christ) than other ones. Where to even start with your huge...
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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    Hey, are you going to answer my question? When you get to Heaven, do you think that Christ and Paul (for example, I could name a bunch of other people) will be happy to see you and both welcome you in? Or do you somehow think Paul's going to say "nope, he should go away", followed by him and...
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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    You're implanting your views here to draw false & over-generalized conclusions. - The first one you're talking about seems likely an outburst of frustration, nothing more. LDS Christians of coursed consider the Bible to be very important and care deeply what that word of God. However, we...
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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    "Anti-cultists" MAJORLY exaggerate the role either Joseph Smith or Brigham Young play in the LDS Christian faith. In reality, the role is much much smaller. I'm not a disciple of Joseph Smith, nor hold him to some special lordship at all. Rather, I totally acknowledge that he was a flawed...
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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    The part I underlined I also stated. As to the rest: You're imposing Sola Sciptura here. I don't remotely believe in Sola Scriptura, don't fund suhc an idea support in the Bible and actually passionately disagree with it. So an argument based in "well the Bible doesn't say that" doesn't...
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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    Ok, so that's a "accepting Christ + passing a certain theology test". There actually isn't any special relationship between Christ & Lucifer other than the one that applies to everyone: namely that the Father is their Father. He's Christ's Father, your Father, my Father, Elvis' Father...
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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    "Are Mormons Christian?" This answer comes down to how the word "Christian" is being defined. I'll go over a few definitions and the resulting answers. "Christian" = a person whom has faith in Christ. And that's it. Then yes, Mormons are Christian- Jesus Christ is my Lord and Savior...
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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    Well, that's going from 99 degrees of inaccurate to only 50 degrees of inaccurate.... so I suppose an upgrade? Would you like to discuss any theological points or have questions, let me know. I'll address the question "Are Mormons Christian" in the next post.
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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    I happy to discuss any actual theological point, as I have several. What’s your other book?
  11. J

    Why Do People Believe In This?

    I call junk junk. It doesn't matter what faith it's about. I have literally given you several examples of false information and cultish "just listen to me" tactics. Christians (of any type) have no need for that toxic junk that encourages this and falsely stereotyping others Rather, a...
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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    Such quips are unneeded and inaccurate. There are whole number of possible reasons, mental health is a complicated thing we understand so little about. It'd be extremely poor and biased scholarship to assume : well it must be because they're all Mormon and that proves Mormonism makes you...
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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    As to God in flesh-- - God the Spirit is a person of spirit. No body. That's agree upon for Christians in general, including LDS ones. - God the Son was a person of spirit before being born of Mary. Then His spirit entered a mortal body. A mortal body subject to all infirmities (yes the...
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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    Breaking my response up to differnt points-- -- By default, I do agree that people should be heard out. However, it is possible for some sources to prove themselves to truly be just junk. "The Godmakers" is 100% toxic fictitious junk, which is me putting things extremely nicely. -- I'm...
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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    LDS Christians believe that Mary was a virgin. That's the fact. Don't try to dance around or skirt that away.
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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    Yeah, that book is total hate-filled fiction, strawmans cover to cover. ----Starting with the facts: LDS Christians believe that Christ was born to a virgin Mary. ---- Here's some sources explaining that LDS Christians consider scriptures and the word of God, emphasis mine: Isaiah 7: 14...
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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    Ok, I'll get one things going about Christ's birth to the virgin Mary...typing...
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    Why Do People Believe In This?

    Everything he's written? Or do you want one of the many many examples? And should we move this to PM to avoid further thread-jacking?
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    For free will believers out there

    Every person has the opportunity to accept Christ. None are denied.
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    For free will believers out there

    I firmly believe that after their mortal death, they will hear of Christ and have the choice accept to reject Him. God is ever just.