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Then a big amen brother! :D Hi Mark! :) No... No... No... I see a dangerous mix in what you put there... Born again without walking there? Absolutely possible. Maybe even the experience of most, if not, at least many. It is the heaven bound that I find dangerous. If you mean it in it's most...

I believe that is true. :) God predestines us, and he will finish his work in us... But the word must be taken in balance, it gives these promises, and they are true. But the Bible also gives us 'IF's. Heb 6:8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing...

Once more, a clear declaration of unbelief in the power of the gospel. Gal 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. The gospel has nothing to do with covering us. God does NOT need an excuse or a scheme to forgive us. Have we forgotten that he...

Whether we are or not is not the issue here. The issue is whether the power is available to become the sons of God. People deny a standard of holiness they believe impossible because they have never experienced... But the Bible testifies to a power by which we become just like Christ. If we...

And I'm thankful you're here! :)

There is truth in what you say, but I wonder if you bring it too far. God has indeed chosen and predestined us... But to what? This life is a race. God selects who he wants to see run, but it is still the runner who must participate. Yes, it is God who makes one swift, and gives one the...

Amen brother! And it's only the beginning! ;)

Yes! :) Pro 25:2 It is the glory of God to conceal a thing: but the honour of kings is to search out a matter.

Yes! :) This verse just went from 2D to 4D. Now it has depth! Isa 62:2 And the Gentiles (nations) shall see thy righteousness, and all kings thy glory: and thou (Zion) shalt be called by a new name, which the mouth of the LORD shall name. Righteousness and glory. Nations and kings.

:lol: The rules of learning... You have to hash it out for yourself! No answer keys. Hints point you in the right direction... But you still have to go down the road yourself! ;)

I couldn't of told you... Only hints! ;) It's how the game goes!

Hahaha! :lol: :P Good thread and good posts, all! :)

Absolutely. God is the one who grafts us in. :) But to see only that is to miss the other half of the picture. Like you say, there is a level of accountability.... As a matter of fact, our level of accountability is higher than that of those who do not know him. Those who are given new life in...

God causes all things to work for the best of those who love him There is the dance again! We fit the role of the follower... What is required is that we put our whole heart in it, love him, and he will work all things out. If we dance with all our heart, God will lead every step! ;)

Interesting way of putting it! :) If understood properly, these fit. But the last one seems off in what is implied... We are called to walk in this life today. Sadly many do believe in such a doctrine but have been led to believe this is something reserved for the future, after death. Rather...

They do it together, hand in hand... Otherwise the man could not start in the Spirit and continue in the flesh, since he does nothing. God is the one leads... But like a dance, the man leads, but the woman must follow!

And you base this on...??? Your own understanding maybe? But this is not what the word says. Rom_8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. Eph_4:24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in...

This is not true. But a lie the enemy has sneaked into the church... God is merciful, but that is to the person, not to the sin. This sounds good to the ears... But it is not the truth communicated through the word. Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of...

Through faith we indeed have access to righteousness as you say, K. But the meaning of that is far different from what you make it to be! We have access to imparted righteousness, a power (the life of Christ) that God places in us and that allows us to be as he is. Even further, it is actually...

No offense taken, and were I to misunderstand anything you say, forgive me I pray, and let me know. :) See, the issue is that people use Romans 7 against the proclamation of Paul in Romans 8 that through Christ he is freed. Romans 8 is the solution to the dilemma that Paul sets forth in Romans...