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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Yes, you Premillennialists continue to force contradiction upon the Word of God, then ignore the fact that in doing so you turn the Word of God into man's words and wonder why Amill says you've turned the Word of God into convoluted garbage!
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    If you believe this, why do you continue to argue that after the first advent of Christ, after He returned to His Father in heaven, after He made atonement for sin, after He defeated death, that disembodied souls cannot be alive with Him in heaven also, since He went there to prepare a place for...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    You seem not to even notice that the witch was able to speak to the spirit of Samuel after he had physically died? How could that be possible unless the spirit of Samuel lived on after his body had breathed its last? The witch describes that which she was able to conjure up, "I saw gods...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Sorry to disappoint you, but I am at peace! Since you're the one continuing to push a false doctrine, the torment is no doubt causing you such consternation! That is unless your conscience has been so utterly seared that the Holy Spirit no longer convicts you!
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Samuel came up through the power of evil! This was done through the providence of God to send a message to Saul telling him the LORD had departed from him. 1 Samuel 28:9 (KJV) And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    This is a vision, but it is important to note that these two Old Covenant faithful saints were shown in the vision as proof there is life (spiritual) after death for those of Old who died before the advent of Christ. According to the Old Covenant prophets those of faith would be redeemed from...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Why would I use reasoning from Premillennialists who have NO, ZERO, NADA understanding of the Kingdom of God? The only part of mankind of faith to HAVE ETERNAL LIFE after physical death is the spirit of man indwelt with power from on high through the Holy Spirit. Yes, the spirit of man who...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    It doesn't surprise me that you, being Premillennialist can only believe what you can see with physical sight, or physically interpreted. Because you have no understanding of the Kingdom of God that Christ came to earth a man with. A Kingdom that is NOT of this world, cannot be physically...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    You've lost me here! God is the God of the DEAD Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob? No, He is the God of the living! For that reason Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob through long ago physically dead are still alive through faith. How can we know this? Because Christ tells us about a place of those of Old...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Here again is reply #154, that it appears you partially ignored. Reply #156 proves you simply ignore whatever doesn't agree with your unbiblical doctrines of man. Typical! There is no ambiguity in the words of Christ, telling His disciples that He would send the Holy Spirit to be in them unto...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    I've already shown you, but apparently you simply ignore or twist any verse or passage that proves you have little understanding of Scripture. I see you're again being obtuse! I realize you may not be the brightest bulb in the package, but even you I would hope are smart enough to recognize a...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Your argument is with the Word of God! You're making my argument for me. The FACT that Abaham also is of the God, among the living, linking the physically dead Abraham, Isaac and Jacob among the living, proves that physical death does not keep the faithful dead from being spiritually alive...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    I believe the context of Rev 20 reveals the fate of ALL humanity. They are defined as two different types, those who are faithful unto death, and the rest of the dead who die in unbelief. John writes of martyrs who have already lived and died in faith (a thousand years, symbolizing time from...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    The Old Testament saints were saved in the same way we are saved after the first advent of Christ. According to grace through faith. The Holy Spirit being with them, was not permanently in them, but Scripture shows us through John the Baptist the Spirit in those who believed the words the...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    I would argue we are spiritually regenerated because we partake of Christ's resurrection that is the first resurrection of the dead to immortal life. Because of, or through Christ's bodily resurrection, our spirit through His Spirit in us has been regenerated by the power of God.
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    I agree! A few verses earlier Paul tells us whose resurrection was past. 2 Timothy 2:8 (KJV) Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    "This is the first resurrection" does NOT belong to the "rest of the dead"! It belongs to the blessed and holy "he that hath part in the first resurrection", "on such the second death hath no power". The dead are NOT blessed and holy, because they are not among the souls who have lived and...
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    Our spirit is made alive through regeneration, and that is spiritual life we receive when we believe in the resurrection of Christ, for He is the first resurrection of the dead, and the resurrection and the life.
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    Getting to the heart of the Amil confusion

    We are born again through the first resurrection, that is the resurrection of Christ, not our bodily resurrection, but our spiritual new birth!
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    Is the first resurrection past already?

    Do you think if you repeat the same line of reasoning ad nauseum that will make your false doctrine true? Paul just a few verses before says, "Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to my gospel:" If Paul did not believe the first resurrection is...