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That's a deliberately circular argument. What is the definition of "person" in context with this then? Then differentiate it from "being" in the same context.

No, all scripture is God breathed and profitable..... (2 Tim 3:16). Scripture is its own authority, man either understands it or not.

I'm sure he was, specifically this- God is not "this icon" and God doesn't work through objects in terms of miracles. Also God doesn't "dole out" miracles- when He performs one, there is a specific purpose and reason ( and often times they create calamities too) What you are referencing is...

You like strawman defenses to hide your own inadequacies don't you? No, its a false one and only supported by Catholic dogma OK Its not what I "think"- its a fact. There's a difference.

It has been said for years that ignorance is bliss. I suppose you are living proof

Well, you will find every word of it true from Scripture regardless of what you or anyone says about it. There is no "holy object" (anything made of this earth) in Christ and God doesn't perform to the "pleasures or desires" of the general masses.

You like jumping from one unsupported point to the next don't you? I see clearly and have stated my case plainly and factually. Now lets examine the log in your eye. You have yet to provide anything resembling proof, evidence or a clear validation of any point you pretend to make. Why is that...

Thank you very much Then by your own words above, this.. Your understanding is 100% fundamentally and fatally flawed. The thief on the cross was not "water baptized". Jesus baptized no one. That is a public ceremony and RCC dogma ( and some protestant denominations dance around it)- not...

If they met the criteria, yes. Its a one word answer and an absolute. The ONLY way to the Father is through Jesus (that includes miracles) Scripture makes it clear that even the "prayers" of the unrighteous are an "abomination" to God. God doesn't give "miracles" to the masses and certainly...

OK, again, by the numbers And from scripture- WHO was God addressing? ( provide chapter and verse to shore it up) And your point? "I" is still a singular pronoun as I alluded to earlier. (I hope you don't think the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob are 3 different beings do you?) Again...

Sure but first give me the definition of "baptism" you are using in your statement as I have already clarified one upthread.

The Spirit of God abides in no earthly vessel so if anyone did get some "miracle" thingie- it wasn't of God. Also, God doesn't perform "miracles" through the images of anyone else as He does what He does for his own glory and for his own purpose. You would benefit by abstaining from this form...

Sometimes love just aint enough (to give any strength or legitimacy to your points) I suggest some deep and vigorous study, that almost always increases substance of a given belief or point.

Do (or can) you stay on one point long enough to engage in a legitimate discussion or do you just bounce all around going to and fro like the clanging cymbal?

No, you just pontificate incorrect points to hide behind legitimate discourse where your points could be addressed. Then you resort to ad hom and deliberate obfuscation in order to avoid exposing both the weaknesses of your positions and inability to address the strengths of the other views.

Man, you are like the Kudzu of all misunderstandings. Have you ever actually academically studied the subjects you post? Why don't ( just for ease of readability) pick one scripture at the time on the topic and I'll walk you through it. It will be much easier and more beneficial to you than...

Very welcome but its sad that that's all you have left. All hat and no cattle but at least you have your humor. Its not difficult to see when one has no substance with which to discuss, they and their points quickly devolve into nothingness then get stuck in a repeat cycle.

Yes I did, you are just obfuscating now because I put an abrupt end to your diatribe. Now address my points and stop evading them. I understand them and correct them frequently. I was specifically asking because there are various differences and nuances across belief systems. You assume wrong.

Is there a point or context to that you are trying to make?

By the numbers What exactly did you intend to say with this word salad? How is it relevant to the question on the table? I said that- are you agreeing with me? Baptism of the Holy Spirit (the moment of being sealed) "washes away sin" (As I defined earlier) "water" baptism ( the ceremony...