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I agree! The foolish Jews of Old in unbelief rejected the Messiah (bridegroom) when He came, and indeed have missed the opportunity to be saved. They, and no others who remain foolish shall be able to enter into the Kingdom of God in heaven if they are not eternally saved before Christ comes...

Yes, I agree! That's because many among those who are saved are represented as foolish virgins. You cannot be among the saved without having the oil that comes from the Spirit in you. These five foolish virgins did not understand this and thought they too were saved simply by being connected...

No he isn't! The parable, as he points out is given so that we might be prepared in the day of the Lord when He returns again. This is necessary to point out because some are falsely teaching that people who are not prepared before Christ returns will still have opportunity to be saved...

So, do you believe the church as she exists on earth is occupied only with those who are saved because they all have Bibles?

Verse twelve should put the final nail in the coffin for those who believe the five foolish virgins were Christians! The notion that some will be given another chance to be saved when Christ returns has been soundly refuted!

How is pointing out the difference between the wise and foolish in the world "speaking nonsense"? That is what the ten virgins are used to represent. Where in the Bible is being foolish ever defined as those who are saved?

How can the five foolish be considered among the wise who are saved since they took no oil in their lamps?

You haven't! He is simply too blinded by what he has been taught to see! There is no man so blind as the man who REFUSES to see!

How foolish you continue to show yourself to be! Have you not even spiritual discernment to understand the difference between the 'lambs'/'sheep' of Christ, and 'wolves' wearing sheep's clothing feeding together? Luke 10:3 (KJV) Go your ways: behold, I send you forth as lambs among wolves...

I for one am very grateful to WPM for setting the record straight. It was badly needed because some people having an unbiblical doctrine to defend, use the ECF in a dishonorable way. No, I won't go back over the discussions we've had in this thread to show you where you have forced...

Having endeavored himself through much time and study of the ECF, I fully understand why WPM would be adamant about setting straight the record regarding the early church fathers. I'm encouraged to see you have edited your OP after learning what you had posted does not align with what ECF's...

I'm doing very well David, thank you for asking. It sounds like you are doing better these days as well. I hope your health issues have been fully resolved.

How do these verses prove Satan has power over the saints of Christ? Isn't it God that has power of life and death? Death of our physical body cannot harm the soul that ascends to heaven the spiritual body of Christ there when our body breathes its last. That doesn't sound to me like Satan...

Greetings to you as well Redd, Wouldn't disagree with most of what you've said, except to say 'know' instead of physical sight 'seeing'. I don't agree with the translations quoting Christ as telling the Pharisees that He is the kingdom of God that is in their midst. If that was what He...

Exactly! But it seems Premillennialists can't help themselves! Can't really blame them (lol) after all they get no help from the Scriptures!

Had to laugh! I assumed Rich's spelling! Thanks for the laugh

I wasn't looking!

Yes, it is an extensive study! Far easier to simply repeat what you have learned, rather been taught from others, who themselves probably also found it too exhausting to study for themselves, so the error continues to be perpetuated with only few who take the time to learn from the writings of...

Here's a pretty good site in case if you're interested. http://www.romans45.org/hall.htm

Sorry Rich, but I see this as a cop-out! WPM has quoted verbatim extensively from the ECF many times in the forums, citing references from which to prove. You should also be able to cite your sources so all reading might have something besides 'thus sayeth Rich."